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    Speaking of on-topic have you all seen some of the video from Shanghai? Tdl explorer on YouTube has a decent review. Even though they sold out of tickets it appeared like attendance was low (lower than 30% capacity).

    Seems like some of the measures are good but parades were a little close for social distancing (Shanghai Disneyland only required a one meter separation ). The video shows attraction, dining, shopping, character interaction (at a distance). Dining still had a buffet. :-O.

    The temperature screening was interesting. You walk by these scanners in a tent (u have to remove any hats) and it scans people as they walk by without stopping. Apparently the Vegas casinos are trying the same and Bob Over mentioned this earlier. I guess if they note someone has a higher temp in a bunch of people they would pull all of them aside and test each one thoroughly.

    Overall OK controls from what I could see but there's always a risk. I personally am leaning more towards not ready.

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    The temperature scanners would seem to be an interesting variety of things that can be used. Before all this, I'd heard of infra red, but only knew of such things like the small hand held type units at the local convenience stores.

    I had to go into my workplace briefly one day last week to hand in a form that could not be done remotely, and they have a temperature scanner that looks just like some sort of camera mounted to a wall at the entrance. The guard asked me to stand on the six foot social distancing marker on the ground and look in the direction of the sensor. I have no idea what my temperature read, but it must not have been high enough to prevent me from entering. It was a surprise to me that something so far away would have any chance of an accurate reading. Technology is wonderful, though. I'd guess something along those lines would be what would be deployed for park entrances (maybe it's very close technology to the thing they used in the tent at Shanghai DL).

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    The answer seems pretty simple to me. I don't proclaim to be a scientist or even play one on TV.

    Here goes. TESTING, TESTING, TESTING. And then more testing. Masks, social distancing and tests.

    If there was ample testing, that was quick and free - then people could move around with a bit of peace of mind. Tests before the school day starts. Test before your shift starts. Tests, tests, tests.

    I am fortunate, my area has testing available. But it's not everywhere and not available to everyone. That is what we need.

    But there are people who don't want tests. There are people who don't feel like they need to wear a mask. They don't need to social distance. And they ruin it for everyone. They will get it. They will spread it. They are the reason we can't try and get back to normal.

    As a mother - they remind me of the unruly toddlers who are running their households.

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    In the perfect solution, yes.

    During today's Rose Garden presser, the number 350,000 tests per day was thrown up on the screen. Problem is we have roughly 1000 times that in population (looks like around 330 million or so, rounding a bit).

    So just rough math, 1000 times the current level of testing available in a given day would result in being able to test everyone in the US one time every day. That would be great, but it's also a 1000 times multiplier over what is possible today.

    Or looked at another way, at today's testing rate, it would take 1000 days (just under 3 years) to test everyone in the US once (if we start talking global, multiply appropriately).

    Obviously we want to be able to test those doing the work of taking care of patients more often, so that makes the math draw out for those of us not having any observable reason to think we are sick.

    Obviously the testing advancements are still being worked on in terms of producing more tests, simpler methods, etc. That one machine they keep mentioning has something on the order of thousands in the country (I forget the number, 3000, 5000?). But the point is those machines are obviously only at certain medical facilities, so tests need to get there to be processed, even if the materials for the test itself (swabs, etc) may be able to be more widely geographically distributed. And also of course people to accurately process the tests, that's needed too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave1313 View Post
    In the perfect solution, yes.

    During today's Rose Garden presser, the number 350,000 tests per day was thrown up on the screen. Problem is we have roughly 1000 times that in population (looks like around 330 million or so, rounding a bit).

    So just rough math, 1000 times the current level of testing available in a given day would result in being able to test everyone in the US one time every day. That would be great, but it's also a 1000 times multiplier over what is possible today.

    Or looked at another way, at today's testing rate, it would take 1000 days (just under 3 years) to test everyone in the US once (if we start talking global, multiply appropriately).

    Obviously we want to be able to test those doing the work of taking care of patients more often, so that makes the math draw out for those of us not having any observable reason to think we are sick.

    Obviously the testing advancements are still being worked on in terms of producing more tests, simpler methods, etc. That one machine they keep mentioning has something on the order of thousands in the country (I forget the number, 3000, 5000?). But the point is those machines are obviously only at certain medical facilities, so tests need to get there to be processed, even if the materials for the test itself (swabs, etc) may be able to be more widely geographically distributed. And also of course people to accurately process the tests, that's needed too.
    I don't like to get into the stay home until their is a vaccine/open up debate, but the posts on testing intrigue me and is something I always think about. Not the normal debate on tests, but challenging my mind and just thinking outside the box on what would be a game changer.

    Lots of gains in testing since the beginning of all this. From the nasal swab testing, taking 7-10 days to get results, and now on to the throat swab and getting results in 24-48 hours. But even then, that lag could make a difference. A game changer would be if a company could produce a reusable personal testing kit. Almost like a blood sugar tester for those with diabetes. Whether it be by taking a blood sample from a quick finger prick, or like a breathalyzer that you can blow into, something like this would be a huge step forward. Obviously there would be a need for multiple companies to produce the test for everyone who want or need one. But this would allow to people to self check at any given moment.

    Anyways, just thinking out loud and hoping someone in the science world has already thought of something like this.

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    Getting back to the subject of this thread…….

    I am going to say that the Disneyland Resort will reopen mid-July, no real facts, just a guess and I am jonesing for a Corn Dog from the Little Red Wagon on Main Street USA

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    For the people in this thread supporting stay at home I just have to wonder is that a suicide pact? In other words are you willing to support it at the cost of an economic collapse? By the way this has nothing to do with the reopening of Disneyland so dont get it twisted. It could reopen in 10 days or 10 months and its not germane although I will admit that if the businesses I advocate for do open, it follows that DL will follow suit soon after.

    We were told initially flattening the curve was necessary to reopen. Florida, Georgia, and Texas have stayed true to that standard, reopened responsibly, and see encouraging results. Other places (California obviously among them) move the goalposts from flatten the curve to no Covid deaths in 14 days or less than x Covid deaths per 10,000 or even we must have a vaccine. The goals are likely unattainable. Do they indefinitely stay in place until every small business withers and dies?

    I guess Im left wondering if some of you are willing to assume any amount of risk at all ... or at the very least comply with others of us going on with our lives assuming that risk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by june1st1997 View Post
    The answer seems pretty simple to me. I don't proclaim to be a scientist or even play one on TV.

    Here goes. TESTING, TESTING, TESTING. And then more testing. Masks, social distancing and tests.

    If there was ample testing, that was quick and free - then people could move around with a bit of peace of mind. Tests before the school day starts. Test before your shift starts. Tests, tests, tests.

    I am fortunate, my area has testing available. But it's not everywhere and not available to everyone. That is what we need.

    But there are people who don't want tests. There are people who don't feel like they need to wear a mask. They don't need to social distance. And they ruin it for everyone. They will get it. They will spread it. They are the reason we can't try and get back to normal.

    As a mother - they remind me of the unruly toddlers who are running their households.
    This is what I was saying about those that seem to be wanting it all open right now and how it should have been all along. Its only going off what I see where I am because disgusting protesters (yes I said disgusting because of imagines they used on signs) and they had no masks and no distance because they do not believe its anything more than a plan old flu. They want to sunbath and are doing so still even though the order is our beaches are for active use only but no one is stopping it. They want to get hair and nails done because its more important than health. Mind you many of these protesters making it so restaurants in that area had to keep closed or were on parts of the streets that got shut down. They weren't there grabbing a meal to go at these places but hurting those businesses sadly because they are just selfish. I have been saying they are acting like kids that heard the word no for the first time in their lives and are having the largest tantrum over it until they get their way. We are 3rd in highest numbers (Santa Ana and Anaheim are way up there at this point). There is no drop in numbers here. When there is, its one or 2 days and then a huge jump back up. We have over 200 in the hospitals. The stay at home order was in place so we didn't overload those hospitals. Which seemed to work but with how its been and how many are acting like kids, I am afraid it won't stay that way. Considering we aren't seeing a drop in those testing positive I can't see even July at this point being a time for Disneyland to open.

    Quote Originally Posted by MidwayManiac View Post
    For the people in this thread supporting “stay at home” I just have to wonder is that a suicide pact? In other words are you willing to support it at the cost of an economic collapse? By the way this has nothing to do with the reopening of Disneyland so don’t get it twisted. It could reopen in 10 days or 10 months and it’s not germane although I will admit that if the businesses I advocate for do open, it follows that DL will follow suit soon after.

    We were told initially flattening the curve was necessary to reopen. Florida, Georgia, and Texas have stayed true to that standard, reopened responsibly, and see encouraging results. Other places (California obviously among them) move the goalposts from “flatten the curve” to “no Covid deaths in 14 days” or “less than x Covid deaths per 10,000” or even “we must have a vaccine”. The goals are likely unattainable. Do they indefinitely stay in place until every small business withers and dies?

    I guess I’m left wondering if some of you are willing to assume any amount of risk at all ... or at the very least comply with others of us going on with our lives assuming that risk.
    I just say a news report that about Palm Beach County, Florida and how cases are going up after it reopened. Look what happened at a night club(s) in South Korea because of how packed they were. They used contact tracing to follow where he was but people here are acting like we are going to be pulled from our homes if they do that. Mind you, they contact tracing already when we have had measles outbreaks. You have to hope that in Wisconsin that all those people running to the bars with no masks or distance don't get it or spread it from doing that. With one city in Texas, I had seen that when they had opened the mall and restaurants were pretty much empty. So I don't know how it is now but it seemed many were not ready to just rush out like I think would happen here. My issue is that seeing how many that believe its a lie, that its being used to control us, think they don't have to wear a mask or keep distance and are only concerned with their needs and not how it effects others.....this is why I think opening to soon will be worse for us in the long run and that all we have been doing so far will feel like it was for nothing. It also needs to be remembered this is not something only we are dealing with. To many forget that this is a world crisis. Its not just America dealing with it or a certain state or county but many seem to act that way. There are countries that were only letting people go out to work in certain jobs and for groceries. While we had been able to come and go as we still pleased from our homes with recommended guidelines we should follow.

    My friend lives in Vegas and thinks opening casinos at this point would be to soon. This is from a person that is dying to get out and do more than grocery shop or go for a walk in her neighborhood. Yet we both know that if they did many from other states would flock to the area and that is what doesn't need to happen at this point.

    BTW, I'm not 100% on board with the temp taking as a go to for someone being sick or not as it has been proven that many don't have a fever and carry it around. Nursing homes were checking temps of workers and it still was brought in. No one else was going in those places. Daily testing before doing anything...I can not see that happening. No way will most people in this country go along with being tested before a job, school or doing something entertainment wise. I haven't even seen much on the quick tests at this point but wonder what the percentage is in being false compared to correct.
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    Personally i would like to se both parks re-open on 7/17. I think it would make headlines that the re-opening would be on the original birthday. neat

    J

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    Printed disclaimer to those soon to enter Disney Springs and other parts of the phased reopening in Orlando:


    "An inherent risk of exposure to COVID-19 exists in any public place where people are present. COVID-19 is an extremely contagious disease that can lead to severe illness and death. By visiting Walt Disney World Resort, you voluntarily assume all risks related to exposure to COVID-19."
    Your attention, please. The Disneyland Limited now leaving for a grand circle tour of the Magic Kingdom. Aboaaard!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MidwayManiac View Post
    Printed disclaimer to those soon to enter Disney Springs and other parts of the phased reopening in Orlando:
    Sad that they have to do that, and I bet others will or are, but we all know there are those that would use it to try to gain money from any business as well so don't blame them for putting the disclaimer together.
    A crowded day at Disneyland beats a busy day of housework!!

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