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hg0079
08-21-2006, 09:33 AM
We ended our 3 day stay at Dland resort in disgust at other adults at the park.

The poor Tram workers. " Please step back from the tram. Yes you, No step back, do not board" Exit to the left (and where do people get off of.....) etc etc etc. Push Push Push Shove Shove Shove....

Who bombards the characters, the adults

Who shoves anyone and everyone on the street and don't appologize....the adults

who cuts in on Splash when they see people walking down the walkway....adults

who throw trash on the streets....the adults

We watched one lady yell very nasty stuff to a man who was saving spots for 6 people for fireworks in the hub....

We watched well felt a grown adult toss water in the Tower of Terror

We watched adults leave trash galor on the table in toon town while their 5 year old tossed her stuff.

We watched adults beg for things

It was really sad

JookyG
08-21-2006, 10:13 AM
LOL, it's so true!

I used to think it would be great to have adults-only events at Disneyland, then I realized it's not the kids that are the problem. It's the adults. Plenty of stories on these boards about parents shoving kids out of the way so their kids could get that autograph, or yelling at folks for standing up in non-sitting spots for the fireworks, etc. If only there was someone around to smack down the adults like they do to their kids.

Disneyland truly brings out the best and the worst in people.

Crazy4DL
08-21-2006, 10:41 AM
I must have some magic blinders on . . . we were there for 9 days several weeks ago and I don't recall hardly a bad moment.

I did see someone toss a cup off the train one night. Not sure if it was an adult or a child.

I don't think I got shoved once. :confused: Maybe I am too old and scary to shove. :p

We didn't ride the tram though. We rode our hotel shuttle several times but the men stood up and let the women or older people sit.

So sorry you had such a different experience. Ugh!

MammaSilva
08-21-2006, 10:45 AM
wow, I'm sorry your experience was so filled with 'bad' moments....we were there recently and had a fantablous experience....to include people willingly almost insistant in giving up their well earned and deserved spots for fireworks so that Missy would have a better view...and these were adults but of 'all ages' not just grandparents, young adults were moving and saying no reallymove her up we can stand behind her just fine....

I'm sorry your magic got tarnished.

hg0079
08-21-2006, 01:15 PM
oh I wouldn't say it got tarnished or ruined or anything, we are able to live our lives and take note of what is going on with out it ruining things, it's just a shock when you see kids behaving and adults not.......

the worst was something I forgot to share

we were up top on splash and these 40ish year old parents were frusturated with their kids it was something about the kids acting up with an empty water bottle, so what did the parents do, took it from them dropped it over the side and said there no one gets it.......IT HIT A LITTLE GIRL ON THE HEAD!

pisces
08-21-2006, 01:18 PM
Maybe it's the heat.

I hope it's not like that during the Holidays.

Can you imagine that kind of stuff taking place Christmas Eve?

Never. Not during Christmastime at the Park!

Crazy4DL
08-21-2006, 01:21 PM
we were up top on splash and these 40ish year old parents were frusturated with their kids it was something about the kids acting up with an empty water bottle, so what did the parents do, took it from them dropped it over the side and said there no one gets it.......IT HIT A LITTLE GIRL ON THE HEAD!

:eek: sheezz!

Glad you were able to have a good time despite some rather bad acting adults.

JookyG
08-21-2006, 01:21 PM
we were up top on splash and these 40ish year old parents were frusturated with their kids it was something about the kids acting up with an empty water bottle, so what did the parents do, took it from them dropped it over the side and said there no one gets it.......IT HIT A LITTLE GIRL ON THE HEAD!

Wow, I hope they got ejected from the park! It's worth mentioning behavior like that to a CM. Disney will definitely take action if other guests' safety is put at risk (or more precisely, if they might be liable for a lawsuit).

Nancy
08-21-2006, 03:10 PM
we were up top on splash and these 40ish year old parents were frusturated with their kids it was something about the kids acting up with an empty water bottle, so what did the parents do, took it from them dropped it over the side and said there no one gets it.......IT HIT A LITTLE GIRL ON THE HEAD!


There are cameras all over the place. I can't believe CM's couldn't see it happen and then do nothing about it. I try to point this kind of behavior out to my kids so the stupid adult sees me say it's bad behavior. I'm sure it won't stop them from doing it again but at least it embarrasses them for the momment.

RStar
08-21-2006, 08:19 PM
I've seen teens cut in line. I've had a 10 year old squirt his water bottle all over me. I had a 5 year old push a stroller into me ankle (although the parents should have stopped that one). I've seen teens trash the queue.

It's not the age, there are people that should behave that don't in all age groups. The parents should know better. And they raise kids who don't, because they don't act right.

Yes, it's discusting at times. But if you let them ruin your day, then they've won. It takes all kinds to make this world, I just ignore the idiots, wherever they are.

At DL, the store, or the movies. They are always there. They follow me, hunting me down....AHHHH!!!:eek: :eek:

:~D ;)

PAPACITO
08-21-2006, 09:46 PM
I agree with everything except the tram workers. People do not listen and they have to do their job.

wardkimballfan
08-22-2006, 04:06 AM
And to think that some people actually buy into the notion that spanking is child abuse. No, it's discipline, and we are now seeing the results of a generation or two of a general abandonment of the idea that instilling discipline in a child is a good thing.

People of any age who behave poorly in public would benefit from a good solid spanking. Trust me, it works.

geoffa
08-22-2006, 04:12 AM
And to think that some people actually buy into the notion that spanking is child abuse. No, it's discipline, and we are now seeing the results of a generation or two of a general abandonment of the idea that instilling discipline in a child is a good thing.

People of any age who behave poorly in public would benefit from a good solid spanking. Trust me, it works.

At last - a kindred spirit. "Spare the rod...spoil the child!":)

Tinkermommy
08-22-2006, 07:51 AM
This post reminded me of something that happened the summer before last, when we were at Disneyland with some friends. One of the kids with us was a very petite four year old girl.

We were passing a little boy who was in one of those full-fledged over-heated, over-tired temper tantrums, and his mom was trying to control him. He pulled away from her, ran toward us, stopped in front of my pal's little girl, and slugged her. He outweighed her by probably 20 pounds, so it was a pretty substantial blow to her skinny little arm.

It happened so fast that we all stood there with our chins on the floor, until the little girl started crying. The boy's mom was so apologetic and embarrassed. It was just an incredibly bizarre thing to have happen.

I think Disneyland (and every other tourist attraction) brings out the best, and the worst in people. Sometimes it's the heat, the crowds -- and sometimes it's just that "I paid a bazillion dollars to get my family in here and we're gonna experience some blankety-blank magic even if I have to hurt someone to get it!" attitude.

I've had people make space so my kidlet can see something, and I've been literally shoved by a nasty woman who wanted to get through a crowd that was gridlocked. When we go, we try to avoid letting the nasties get to us. Sometimes it's hard, though. If you ever see a mom and daughter walking through Disneyland saying quietly, "Goooo to your happy place. Gooooo to your happy place," that's us! LOL

Crazy4DL
08-22-2006, 08:08 AM
. If you ever see a mom and daughter walking through Disneyland saying quietly, "Goooo to your happy place. Gooooo to your happy place," that's us! LOL

LOL! I love it!

I can just imagine your stunned looks when a stranger child coming running at you all and slugs one of your party! :eek:

I think part of the reason our trip this time seemed so relaxed is we had plenty of days there. Made ourselves realize we weren't 20 anymore and took some afternoon breaks. Gave the little ones in our party an afternoon swim/nap break. Learned to go hop the train and circle the park when we were too tired and really didn't want to leave.

We have always been the crazy people who don't want to miss a moment so can hardly make ourselves leave the park. It really does pay to take breaks. The time you are there is so much more pleasant - at least for us. :)

hg0079
08-22-2006, 08:23 AM
I agree with everything except the tram workers. People do not listen and they have to do their job.


oh no you misunderstood me.... I completely support the Tram workers. I was saying I can't believe the guests who don't listen and the poor tram workers who have to try to figure out how to get them to listen.....

Pat-n-Eil
08-22-2006, 09:54 AM
At last - a kindred spirit. "Spare the rod...spoil the child!":)

This is kind of a slippery slope. I believe in using spanking, but sparingly. When the child has completely lost control, they deserve a smack on the rear. Folks who believe this breaks their spirit or something will be glad that their kids respond to them when they're about to be hit by a truck in the road. If the kid is used to ignoring orders and doing what they want with no real consequences, they could end up hurt or missing or dead. I've seen it happen.

My kids are now 18 and 15. I believe I can count the times I've spanked them on one hand.. but once you've done it, it becomes a deterrent. The real point is not to punish so much as to establish dominance (as in authority) and respect. Nothing bothers me more than kids who treat parents, teachers, police/security and other figures of authority with rude contempt and backtalk. I'm so glad my kids turned out to be respectful and polite.

I believe that the rude adults are the ones that were allowed to be rude kids.

JookyG
08-22-2006, 10:31 AM
I believe that the rude adults are the ones that were allowed to be rude kids.

And then they pass it on to their kids unless someone can break the chain

dragoonlady
08-22-2006, 12:50 PM
And to think that some people actually buy into the notion that spanking is child abuse. No, it's discipline, and we are now seeing the results of a generation or two of a general abandonment of the idea that instilling discipline in a child is a good thing.

I have 4 adult children, ranging from 35 to 23. My kids were raised with the idea that if you misbehave in public, you are punished in public. I too, can count on one hand how many times I've actually had to become physical with them. My best public punishment was taking them down and kiss them all over their faces. I've done that a couple of time. We've always made sure there was lots of "down time" to read, swim, play, watch TV etc. Our youngest went to DL with our oldest (and her 5 kids) a few years ago and she said it was go, go, go, the kids got grumpy and wouldn't mind, the adults got grumpy and acted like spoiled 6 year old, and it wasn't a pleasant experience.

My answer is if they need a spanking, spank them, if they need some down time find a way to supply it. And NEVER, ever threaten them with something you won't follow through on. Also if you require good manners at home they will automatically use them in public.

50atdisney
08-22-2006, 12:57 PM
I hate it when people try and save spots for people not there....i payed just like they did and if i am there WAITING then i get the spot!...one time at disneyworld i had a guy go nuts because he tryed to save a spot for 12 people and he couldnt...he went so crazy they kicked him out of the park.

hg0079
08-22-2006, 01:08 PM
I think it's time to start a thread on saving....

mulansgirl
08-22-2006, 01:09 PM
For a parade no saving spots for fantasmic go right ahead, they are doing me a favor. I do not want to sit next to wiggly bored kids for three hours. They know there is stuff to do and sitting for that long is not one of them. but if it is around nap time let the little sweethearts go right on and nap next to you, or eat a meal I have seen that, works well. But then I guess there should be a ratio one person can hold spots for maybe three, a spouse and two kids? twelve is uncalled for, and his group never should have let him try it.

hbquikcomjamesl
08-22-2006, 03:08 PM
Children don't try to kill each other; adults do.
Children don't get into pornography; adults do.

So why should it come as a surprise to anybody that adults at DL can have worse behavior problems than any of the kids?

wwithers
08-22-2006, 03:51 PM
I just ignore the idiots, wherever they are.

At DL, the store, or the movies. They are always there. They follow me, hunting me down....AHHHH!!!:eek: :eek:

:~D ;)


LOL!

Koala Gurl
08-22-2006, 06:02 PM
...We've always made sure there was lots of "down time" to read, swim, play, watch TV etc. Our youngest went to DL with our oldest (and her 5 kids) a few years ago and she said it was go, go, go, the kids got grumpy and wouldn't mind, the adults got grumpy and acted like spoiled 6 year old, and it wasn't a pleasant experience.

My answer is if they need a spanking, spank them, if they need some down time find a way to supply it. And NEVER, ever threaten them with something you won't follow through on. Also if you require good manners at home they will automatically use them in public.

Great points about "down time" and threatening punishment. My parents maybe spanked me once growing up, but that was enough to keep me in line! :)

I was there yesterday, and totally & pleasantly shocked on the tram. I have a stroller, and I was there w/ DD by myself yesterday (and 37 weeks pregnant.) The front of the tram filled up fast (the area where strollers can go unfolded), and this family actually smartened up and put the rest of their party in the second & third rows, then actually HELPED lift my stroller onto the tram (originally, there were 2 small strollers and a ton of people.) I love being pleasantly shocked! Otherwise, I just expect the worst (and by doing that, just let it go.)