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zombie pirate
06-11-2006, 11:56 AM
Me and my family go to Disneyland 1 or 2 times a month, sometimes more. WE dont live far away. Lately it seems like some of the other guest are getting a little rude lately. Ive seen cutting in line more, more hostility if someone confronts them. unsupervised children while waiting in a few lines. not much thu. What really got me our last visit, last weekend, there was some young aldults who cut in a very long line just behind us. when some guest said something, the line cutters responded with hostility, and threatened the people who said something to them. Security was there quickly, and escorted them away. Or I seen a lot of very rude people to the Cast Members. Maybe its the weather. Its getting hot. Has anyone have any stories about line cutters, or other rude guest.

mickeynminnie
06-11-2006, 12:06 PM
I have seen a lot of the same things. The hardest thing to watch IMO is watching a guest scream or abuse CMs. I can remember a time on a recent trip when we visited Toontown and I was waiting to buy some chips for my kiddo, there was only one CM but there seemed to be 2 lines, so there was some confusion as to whose turn it was etc. I stood there for a good 10 minutes patiently just waiting but other guests just kept pushing forward and demanding it was their turn. Finally I got my turn and I smiled at the CM and told him that I just wanted some chips and how much did I owe him. Well this abused CM, just looked at me and said, "you don't owe we anything, you're nice"

This CM was jumping and I mean JUMPING to try and meet demand, but that was not good enough for 80% of the people that were there at that moment. I wish people would remember to treat people with a little kindness 90% of the time instead of the 10% that seems to be prevalent.

I'm not going to say anything about teens, except that for every bad story about a bunch of teens, I also have a good story, so it just depends on the group of teens. You know what they say, one bad apple....

kiwifuz
06-11-2006, 12:16 PM
I had very similar experiences during our trip in Nov/Dec. There were too many people that were rude, & quite a few that were fighting over viewing spots for parades & fireworks. I thought for sure a few fist fights were going to break out over pieces of sidewalk. Personally I get super irritated by people who show up right before a parade starts and then expect me to let them have my seat or at least try to practically stand on me. There have been times that I've been tempted to be the raving nut job... ;)

But, I don't think that this is just a problem at Disney. People everywhere are more rude than ever. No one says excuse me anymore, holds doors open, allows people to cut into a line of traffic, etc. That's okay because I make sure I'm overly nice instead. Heck when people cut me off in traffic or don't wait their turns at stop signs I just honk, smile, & wave. :)

CandiBell
06-11-2006, 12:48 PM
Yeah , it can really take effort, but I think the best thing when you are dealing with a rude guest is to either say nothing, or say something short and then divert your attention elsewhere. Almost everyone thinks that their vacation experience should take precedence over everyone else's.

Someone actually said something like that to me once: "I'm on vacation, do you mind??" :confused: I just tried to keep it light, and said, "Well, I think all of us are here on vacation."

Monte Cristo
06-11-2006, 01:19 PM
Me and my family go to Disneyland 1 or 2 times a month, sometimes more. WE dont live far away. Lately it seems like some of the other guest are getting a little rude lately. Ive seen cutting in line more, more hostility if someone confronts them. unsupervised children while waiting in a few lines. not much thu. What really got me our last visit, last weekend, there was some young aldults who cut in a very long line just behind us. when some guest said something, the line cutters responded with hostility, and threatened the people who said something to them. Security was there quickly, and escorted them away. Or I seen a lot of very rude people to the Cast Members. Maybe its the weather. Its getting hot. Has anyone have any stories about line cutters, or other rude guest.

I'm happy to hear that security took care of the problem you described right away.

Unfortunately the problem you're talking about is just our society in general. It is virtually impossible to go to the movies anymore without people playing with, talking on, staring at their cell phones nonstop. The hostility towards others when asked to knock off such behavior is what really galls me. Anytime I've asked someone to be quiet during a film and their response anger, I always wonder what their end of the conversation is the next day with their own friends or family. "yeah, I was talking on my cell phone during the movie and this guy asked me to shut up. Can you believe the nerve?"

Children are another problem. I get incensed when I see parents ignoring their kid's bad behavior. It's as though because they decided they don't mind it's everyone else's job to put up with their kid. I don't blame the child in that instance - children are by their nature annoying (;) I know I was). Try and say something and the defense/hostility mechanisms kick into high gear.

Very depressing all in all. It's not eveyone but it seems like a large chunk of our population no longer understands the concept of common courtesy.

zombie pirate
06-11-2006, 01:25 PM
I guess Im old fashion. I let people over on the freeway, Hold doors open for people, especially mothers with baby carriages. Let people in front of me in the super market who only have a few items. You just got to be happy in every thing you do. no matter what it is. Work, or play. I guess I just grew up in southern California surfing all my life. If things start to drag me down, I go to my Happy Place. The waves, or Disneyland.

jennia
06-11-2006, 01:39 PM
We saw some extra rude rowdy kids yesterday- I chalked it up to school trips with not enough supervision. Seems like we catch them every year since we get out a week or 2 before many So Cal schools. Then things seem to go back to normal and we see very little acting up as the regular family groups come in for the summer.

I only saw one thing yesterday that had me on the verge of summoning a cast member. A kid at the water "ball" attraction out in front of Redd's was being violent in his movements hitting other kids and spewing vulgarities and cursing. As soon as I decided I was going to say something the next time he did it, he stopped. Crisis averted.:)

Mermaid
06-11-2006, 03:00 PM
I have actually been fortunate not to witness too much bad behavior at DL. Although, I am sure I just jinxed myself!! Last December though my sisters and I were trying to get in line for IASW right before the parade. It was a mess!!! We got into what we thought was the back of the line. Someone made some remark but we didn't get it. We asked the people in front of us, "Is this the end?" They said yes, so we stayed. Well, it obviously wasn't which we could see when we got like 5 minutes further down the line. Well, we stayed in it, partly becuase there was no real way out at this point, partly because we were embarassed, and partly (I admit) because we got away with it. It was really an honest mistake and we didn't mean to cut. I think maybe the other people knew that so they didn't really push it.

darph nader
06-11-2006, 03:23 PM
It's a sad state this world is coming to. Civilised my eye.:crying: People killing each other b/c of religion,not different religions.Same religion "different" sects.Lots of people feeling entitlement,alpha types,mf/mfs. Yet we are supposed to respect their diversity."Look at ME ,I'm a jerk,deal with it. (steps off soap box).Sorry my $.02.:rolleyes:

momuvseven
06-11-2006, 03:53 PM
We noticed the same thing last week at DLR. It was much less crowded than other times of year but it was very hot and humid. I left feeling like several people were much ruder than I have experienced in the past. I have to balance that though with several nice conversations I had with people while waiting in lines or for shows.

We were in the Aladdin show and a little boy kept crying that he wanted to go home while mom and dad were fighting in a stage whisper. I wanted to pick him up and take him home. Was really hard to bite my tongue. Wanted to tell them how lucky they were just to be alive and have their beautiful child.

People were screaming during the fireworks at people who were standing because somewhere there was an invisible line showing where people should sit and where they should stand. We never figured that out since in the past we have only seen people stand during the show.

Then there was the super cute toddler in the stroller behind ours whose parents and grandparents appeared to be the super healthy vegan types. This toddler just went ballistic when I handed out Oreos to my kids and he was offered a healthy snack. Of course I offered him an oreo and we all had a really good laugh as he inhaled it and grandpa chided me for feeding him his first junk food.

I think it must be the heat. I know I have never felt so tired as I did last week in the park.

Jwebbal
06-11-2006, 04:05 PM
Then there was the super cute toddler in the stroller behind ours whose parents and grandparents appeared to be the super healthy vegan types. This toddler just went ballistic when I handed out Oreos to my kids and he was offered a healthy snack. Of course I offered him an oreo and we all had a really good laugh as he inhaled it and grandpa chided me for feeding him his first junk food.

You think this is funny? Sorry, but giving my child snacks I don't approve of isn't funny, its rude and can even be dangerous. If I don't want my kid eating oreo's who do you think you are to give him one? Frankly if you did, I would think YOU are the problem guest. Don't offer food to children without asking their parents first.

darph nader
06-11-2006, 04:08 PM
Hey momuvseven,you probably made the little munchkins day.;) As far as getting your head bit by the g-parent,jeeze it's only a cookie.:confused: You should have offered them one also.:D

cookie7762
06-11-2006, 05:31 PM
People were screaming during the fireworks at people who were standing because somewhere there was an invisible line showing where people should sit and where they should stand. We never figured that out since in the past we have only seen people stand during the show.



I noticed the same thing when I was there over memorial day. Every time I had been for the 50th fireworks, the entire crowd would sit until the fireworks actually started, then everyone would stand. This past trip, I stood at the start as usual and half the crowd was throwing a fit and you could literally see, like you said, an imaginary line between the guests that knew to stand and the others that insisted on sitting and getting upset when they couldn't see. Don'[t they understnad that its like a chain reaction, if the people in front of you stand, then in order to see, you must stand, then the people behind you stand. What makes them think that because they want to sit, the other hundred people in front of them should too? Go figure?!

tink1234
06-11-2006, 07:24 PM
I noticed the same thing when I was there over memorial day. Every time I had been for the 50th fireworks, the entire crowd would sit until the fireworks actually started, then everyone would stand. This past trip, I stood at the start as usual and half the crowd was throwing a fit and you could literally see, like you said, an imaginary line between the guests that knew to stand and the others that insisted on sitting and getting upset when they couldn't see.When we went to F! the CM's told us we HAD to stand. We had staked a spot for hours, had a blanket and sleeping babies. We put the babies in strollers and stood. I didn't mind standing, but it was not a choice. We did have a lady and her child slip in front of us to get a better view after we had staked for hours.:rolleyes:

kijay
06-11-2006, 07:39 PM
This CM was jumping and I mean JUMPING to try and meet demand, but that was not good enough for 80% of the people that were there at that moment.

Excellent point Mickeynminnie. It is not this CM's fault that the suits at TDA do not make it a priority to recruit and retain staff, so situations like this do not happen. Unfortunately, most people don't have the common sense that you have to realize this, and they just heap abuse upon the poor CM working his tail off. (Which leads to more good staff leaving and the cycle keeps getting repeated, only worse). People seem to think that everything should be ready the second they want it, and if it isn't, it is perfectly acceptable to take it out on the one person who is there and is desperately trying to help them, when it is the suit up at TDA that refuses to look at reality and start paying better wages to recruit more and better staff (and should be taking the abuse, not the CM imho). Maybe they should take some of those higher ups that don't want to pay for better staff and insert them into that young man's situation. :p I'm pretty sure they would not have the courage and dedication that CM showed that day. Of course, courtesy, respect and thoughtfullness of others does seem to be a thing of the past.:(

Rhiannon8404
06-11-2006, 08:08 PM
You think this is funny? Sorry, but giving my child snacks I don't approve of isn't funny, its rude and can even be dangerous. If I don't want my kid eating oreo's who do you think you are to give him one? Frankly if you did, I would think YOU are the problem guest. Don't offer food to children without asking their parents first.
I totally agree! If you asked if he could have one and mom or dad said yes, but grandpa complained, that's just tough. But if you gave a kid you didn't know food without permission, you could very easily have put that kid's life in jeopardy. If my best friend's son eats something that has been manufactured in the same plant as peanuts or tree nuts, even if the cookie itself doesn't contain them, he will, not might, but will end up in the emergency room.

For your own sake (liability) as well as their own, don't feed other people's kids without express permission.

ThemeParkAddictOfOC
06-11-2006, 08:11 PM
You think this is funny? Sorry, but giving my child snacks I don't approve of isn't funny, its rude and can even be dangerous. If I don't want my kid eating oreo's who do you think you are to give him one? Frankly if you did, I would think YOU are the problem guest. Don't offer food to children without asking their parents first.

Ditto. Ask the parents first. Had you innocently handed my toddler a Nutter Butter, he would be DEAD. Dead in about 2 minutes. FYI: I am as far from a vegan-freak as you could find (although I was a vegan for 5 years at one point in my life). So, please reconsider handing children food without asking the parents. They don't know you. You could be some sort of lunatic. It seems that a lot of kids are allergic to wheat or gluten or etc etc etc. It could be dangerous or at the least very painful for them to eat something that they cannot digest.

Back to the OT.

disneychick
06-11-2006, 10:57 PM
Double ditto. My preschooler is an insulin-dependent diabetic, and while that isn't as immediately, potentially life-threateningly serious as someone with a peanut allergy, "one little oreo" can cause him all kinds of problems, and would require him to have an extra injection.....that is, if I even knew that you'd given him a cookie. If I didn't know for some reason, and DS didn't have enough active insulin in his system, his sugar could skyrocket quickly, making him very ill.

chrisaustx
06-11-2006, 11:59 PM
The social framework of Southern California is all about "me," this is the culture that is taught in the schools, the gyms and on TV. I had many confrontations at Disneyland where I prevented someone from doing something, inadvertently or on purpose, which got me cussed at. Today in fact I was confronted on the train, when two large sized guests refused to allow a bench, which could seat six people, to be used. I barged my way past them and they complained and threatened me, because I dared to barge past them sit in a area where six people could fit. Everything in Southern California is about, "me." The inappropriate cell phone use, the line cutting, the yelling during the fireworks and the people who put out blankets three hours before Fantasmic!, it's all about "me." I saw two young adults last week yell at the train conductor, because they were premium pass-holders and felt compelled that they were entitled to sit in the Lilly Belle. I explained to these people, that unless they paid thousands of dollars for a Club 33 membership, that it wouldn't happen. These people were outraged by this explanation, stating that their $350 passes should entitle them to everything they wanted, once again it was all about, "me." The real problem is in the lines for Space Mountain and Indy, when you have one teenager waiting in line, then 20 other kids push through the line to the front, to "catch up" with their party. When in reality some 15 year old girl made a cell phone call to her friends, and they ran from another part of the park to the ride line, and pushed through 200 people to meet their friends. I wish Disneyland would do more to stop ride line cuts, it is unfair to wait in a 90 min. line, to have twenty people, who were never in line, cut in front of you. Our culture is in trouble, everyone is just out for what benefits them, and could careless about how it affects others, it is a very sad situation.

ThemeParkAddictOfOC
06-12-2006, 12:15 AM
Then there was the super cute toddler in the stroller behind ours whose parents and grandparents appeared to be the super healthy vegan types. This toddler just went ballistic when I handed out Oreos to my kids and he was offered a healthy snack. Of course I offered him an oreo and we all had a really good laugh as he inhaled it and grandpa chided me for feeding him his first junk food.


OK. I am re-reading this again more closely. It seems that they were aware that you did this (or were going to do this) and could have refused. When I first read it, I thought that you snuck him the Oreo without thier knowledge until he was already eating it. So, sorry to jump so quickly. ;) Still, it's proper to ask the parent before you give a child anything. Hehehe. It must be the heat and theme park overload.

Leli
06-12-2006, 01:28 AM
I guess the deal with the fireworks is if you're in the roped off area in front of the castle, it's a sitting area only. If you're on the street or anywhere behind that, it's sit or stand, but because there's is a walk way there, it's easier to see when standing. I was very conflicted because the people in front of me were standing, but the people behind me were yelling for people to sit down. The CM told us we could stand, but the people behind us and in the hub obviously were not able to hear that. I ended up standing though. Next to me was a girl about 11 or 12 the same height as me (yes, I'm a short one :p ) and she was complaining about not being able to see so I offered to let her stand in front of me because I've seen the show a bunch of times. Her mom said, "No, it's okay. She's just always like this," and rolled her eyes. I wasn't sure how to take that.. lol.

Swhite
06-12-2006, 03:12 AM
I guess Im old fashion. I let people over on the freeway, Hold doors open for people, especially mothers with baby carriages. Let people in front of me in the super market who only have a few items. You just got to be happy in every thing you do. no matter what it is. Work, or play. I guess I just grew up in southern California surfing all my life. If things start to drag me down, I go to my Happy Place. The waves, or Disneyland.

Go ZP! I like you.

geoffa
06-12-2006, 06:26 AM
chrisaustx - it ain't just So cal my friend. the whole darn world is becoming ME ME ME! Londoners here in the U.K. are fast becoming the rudest individuals in ths country. Kids carry knives (and use them) and Heaven forbid you should challenge anybody about their behaviour, how they cheat the system, evade taxes, transport fares etc. Judges have gone soft in the courts and there is no discipline in the schools. Everybody lives by their rules and to hell with everuone else. I'm sick of the Human Rights brigade who think it gives them the right to do what they want without any obligation or commitment to society in general. I had a French kid cut infront of me at DLRP whilst in Line for Space Moutain. Fortunately he was wearing a back pack so it made him easy to grab and eject from the line. CMs weren't the least bit interested when I complained. At one time these jerks would have been escorte from the parks.There's a saying: Spare the rod, Spoil the child - interpret that how you will. (Off my soap box now)

averagedork
06-12-2006, 06:59 AM
A few weeks ago, Space Mountain had just opened up from being down for a bit. So my friend and I got in line and waited. Behind us was a group of young girls, who were having a birthday party for one of the girls. Waited for awhile. Out of the corner of my eye, as we were right in the part of the line where it's covered and it's underneath the ledge and you're about 5 minutes away from going into the building, two BIG Mexican American guys who are absolutely HUGE (and the ethnicity has nothing to do with the fact, just note these guys were giant with tattoos and looked scary), walk from the start of the line, straight across the open like helicopter landing area to right in front of me and my friend. And at this point I was quasi-scared because if I did anything they may beat me up. Then about 6 of their friends, equally big, come across and cut. The mother of the birthday party group and my group were just shocked. So for like 4 minutes none of us said anything. Finally the mother (who was like 5 foot tall and super petite) was like "Excuse me, you guys cut." And the guys looked blankly at the woman, she persisted and said "You guys cut in front of the whole line who waited here for a long time and thought no one would say anything because you're big and scary looking." The guys didn't say a word. Finally they moved back, and allowed a few people to go ahead, but still these people cut in front almost to the very front of the line and assumed no one would say anything because of their size. I'm glad that lady said something though. I wouldn't have the cajones to say anything.

raych30
06-12-2006, 07:35 AM
My husband, two kids and I were at the parks yesterday, and what a day! We were exiting Indy and rounding a corner when I was nearly flattened by a motor scooter. She ran over my ankle and didn't even look back, just kept going. I spent an hour in the first aid area. I wanted to give the lady the benefit of the doubt, perhaps people had been cutting her off all day, etc. I got no apology and like I said, she didn't even stop.
Anyway, I'm hobbling around the park, but it was a beautiful day and the lines were great. Cut to Fantasy Land, we were on our way to the Matterhorn. All of a sudden my husband got rammed in the heels by a woman weilding a stroller the size of a SUV. At least she did apologize. His left heel was bleeding pretty good, so back to the first aid station we go.
We were pretty much done after that. I don't think it was in the stars for us to go to DL yesterday :D