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dude
12-04-2003, 10:18 AM
Okay I have started this thread because the last two were closed. Let's all try to have a civilized discussion about the Show, okay? Let's not do all the things that the moderators consider "personal attacks" or anything that goes against the rules of the Pad.

With that being said, who'll be there on the 7th? I will and I am eligible, so I am a Hot Seat hopeful.

Little tod
12-04-2003, 11:37 AM
Please bear in mind that the other two threads about Millionaire were closed due to the attitudes of people who were unwilling to cope with the fact that others were not in wholehearted agreement with what they were saying. Knowing I have alerted you to this, I will distance myself from this and any other threads unless the occasion extremely calls for it.

Omar
12-04-2003, 12:16 PM
I don't know why the moderator closed the thread because I haven't read it over yet, but I don't care.

Well now for more discussions. Hope to see all the people there on the 7th. I am finally eligable :) .

Good luck to all players!

Omar

Andrew
12-04-2003, 12:20 PM
Originally posted by Omar
I don't know why the moderator closed the thread because I haven't read it over yet

It was closed because it was terminally off-topic.


but I don't care.

You should.


Well now for more discussions. Hope to see all the people there on the 7th. I am finally eligable :) .

Good luck to all players!

Could you explain the idea of eligibility to me? I have never been to the show at DCA, though I did get in once at D-MGM. What do you have to do to become eligible to play?

Thanks for keeping this thread on-topic.

millionairegirl
12-04-2003, 12:25 PM
Originally posted by Andrew

Could you explain the idea of eligibility to me? I have never been to the show at DCA, though I did get in once at D-MGM. What do you have to do to become eligible to play?


When you get in the hotseat, and presumably don't win the cruise, you are ineligible to be in the hotseat for 30 days. Once the 30 days are up you are eligible. If you actually win the cruise you either can't be in the hotseat for a year or forever. I'm unclear about that part. Elyse mentioned during a show that it was forever, but she might have been kidding with one guy who kept declining. I know there is a two time cruise winner, so it must not be forever. Perhaps, Tod could clear this up?

If you are CM or work for a Disney subsidiary (ESPN, ABC) you are always ineligible.

I will be there on the 6th when I'm ineligible. But I'm taking a sick day and playing on the 8th when I'm eligible:~D My addiction knows know bounds :rolleyes:

Omar
12-04-2003, 12:43 PM
. If you actually win the cruise you either can't be in the hotseat for a year or forever. I'm unclear about that part.

If you win the cruise you just can't win the cruise for another 365 days. You have 30 days to wait when ineligible then you can get back in. If you win the cruise again you will just get the 500,000 point winners stuff down to 100. If you win the cruise within that 365 day period you will not be pentalized for winning it twice in 365 days just can't win the million point prizes.

And andrew I don't care because we have another one. Plus I'm not going to even read it over because I don't want to sit there and read 15 posts.

Omar

JazzBaby
12-04-2003, 01:06 PM
Andrew...

In a nutshell, you are eligible if you do not work for Disney.

You are eligible if you have not been in the hotseat during the last 30 days.

If you do win the million points they explain about playing again to you then...basically you can play, you can win but you can't win the cruise again for a year.

Stay cool.

:)

tod
12-04-2003, 02:53 PM
Originally posted by millionairegirl
When you get in the hotseat, and presumably don't win the cruise, you are ineligible to be in the hotseat for 30 days. Once the 30 days are up you are eligible. If you actually win the cruise you either can't be in the hotseat for a year or forever. I'm unclear about that part. Elyse mentioned during a show that it was forever, but she might have been kidding with one guy who kept declining. I know there is a two time cruise winner, so it must not be forever. Perhaps, Tod could clear this up?


The 30-day ineligibility rule treats a million-point win like any other Hot Seat appearance. On day 31 you can occupy the Hot Seat again. (I wanted to be absolutely clear on this, so I got specific detail on it. "Yes, you can play again next month.")

They said I coluldn't win the million point prize again for a year, but exactly what that rules out is unclear. Obviously, no cruise. Probably, no black leather jacket. Maybe, no big fat medallion. (They have had no problem giving me shirts and hats on wins since I won the million points, so I guess I can count on getting the fetching hat-and-shirt combo if I go all the way again.)

I would like another million-point pin though. Those are cool.

--T

BTT
12-04-2003, 05:09 PM
Originally posted by tod
I would like another million-point pin though. Those are cool.


The numbered million-point pins are a nice touch. I've tried to get a second one, but befuddled many a time. Makes me appreciate the first time around all the more.

And, this may be only from the DCA end, but nobody has done the double play of DCA and MGM yet. If anybody knows of someone, it would be interesting to hear about it.

Ben T.

newhdplayer
12-04-2003, 08:03 PM
Best of luck to you, but don't you dare waste any time in the hot seat. We want snappy and speedy answers without undue delay.

tod
12-05-2003, 08:57 AM
Originally posted by newhdplayer
Best of luck to you, but don't you dare waste any time in the hot seat. We want snappy and speedy answers without undue delay.

Don't. Go. There.

You will get crucified.

Trust me on this.

--T

dude
12-05-2003, 09:18 AM
I think that he was being sarcastic, but if not, follow tod's advice and don't go there. We don't need a third thread shut down.

About the eligibility issue after winning a Million, this is what was told to me by a Millionaire CM:

If you win the Million, you get the prizes mentioned, and you have to wait another 30 days to be in the Hot Seat, like usual. You also cannot win another Grand Prize for 365 days. If you are not eligible to win a cruise and you still get the million question right it goes like this:

According to the rules, if you play in the Hot Seat when you are not eligible, you cannot have any prizes you win, and you have to wait another 30 days to be eligible for the Hot Seat. Not so with the cruise. If you are not eligible to win the cruise, yet you get the million question right, you cannot get the million winner prizes (no cruise, jacket, medallion, pin), but you can get the prizes up to the 500,000 mark (14 pins, the hat, and the shirt). Also, they do not penalize the cruise eligibility period. So, for example, if you win the cruise on November 10, 2003 you cannot win another cruise until November 10, 2004. But if you come back on December 23, 2003 and get the million right again, you still only have to wait until November 10, 2004 to be eligible for another cruise.

Kind of detailed, but that's how it goes.

tod
12-05-2003, 09:42 AM
Originally posted by dude
I think that he was being sarcastic, but if not, follow tod's advice and don't go there. We don't need a third thread shut down.


I'm absolutely serious. I saw what happened when I said things that were unpopular around here.

I don't know how serious newhdplayer was in his (or her) statement, but I figured a "You're playing with nitroglycerin" warning was in order.

In other news, if I get the million points again I want another numbered million-point pin. They can put an asterisk on it if they want.

--T
who might just stop by Disney-MGM on his way to the cruise, just for fun. You never know what might happen...
;)

dude
12-05-2003, 09:49 AM
Originally posted by tod

who might just stop by Disney-MGM on his way to the cruise, just for fun. You never know what might happen...
;)

Did you know that if you are ineligible at DCA, you still are eligible at MGM? So if you do win the million at DCA, and you go to MGM and win the million again, you get both Grand Prizes.

That was explained to me the first time I was in the Hot Seat when they were escorting me from the prize room.

Also, tod, if you aren't eligible to win another Grand Prize, I don't think that they'll give you another million pin even with an asterisk.

millionairegirl
12-05-2003, 10:21 AM
Originally posted by dude
Did you know that if you are ineligible at DCA, you still are eligible at MGM? So if you do win the million at DCA, and you go to MGM and win the million again, you get both Grand Prizes.



Reeeeealllly (Said with a Mr. Burns maniacal grin)!

That *is* interesting. That might be worth using some frequent flier miles to be able to try twice a month. I'm determined to win that cruise, and it's only a matter of time. Mwaha, mwaha, mwahahahaha.

Ok, I'm just kidding, I'm not *that* deranged. I just love the game a lot. Someday I may win, but I'm not going to obsess over it.

cstephens
12-05-2003, 11:12 AM
Ah, but then the goal will be to try to win at both DCA and MGM on the same day! ;)

Omar
12-05-2003, 12:14 PM
Originally posted by tod
Don't. Go. There.

You will get crucified.

Trust me on this.

--T

Yea I have seen it and been a part of it. I wont go back to it.


Ah, but then the goal will be to try to win at both DCA and MGM on the same day!

That might be hard because the first show here at DCA starts at 12:00 and then you have to get in quick and get out to catch the soonest flight out of California to Florida. That flight is about 4-5 hrs. and I don't know the times at MGM, but it will be thight for time.


Did you know that if you are ineligible at DCA, you still are eligible at MGM? So if you do win the million at DCA, and you go to MGM and win the million again, you get both Grand Prizes.

BIG TAXES, really big. Except in Florida it might be less air fair because the cruise ship starts there.


Also, tod, if you aren't eligible to win another Grand Prize, I don't think that they'll give you another million pin even with an asterisk.

I don't think so either, but I will ask a CM on Sunday.

Thanks,
Omar

timl33
12-05-2003, 12:24 PM
Assuming that the Florida show starts at 12 Noon, you could do that show then catch a flight back to California. What is it, a 5 hour flight? You'd be back in time for the 4PM show.


Originally posted by Omar


That might be hard because the first show here at DCA starts at 12:00 and then you have to get in quick and get out to catch the soonest flight out of California to Florida. That flight is about 4-5 hrs. and I don't know the times at MGM, but it will be thight for time.

Bill Catherall
12-05-2003, 01:29 PM
Alrighty, I've got a question, or maybe a statement (and I say this without pointing fingers and without judging anyone...just curious): If you aren't eligible for the Grand Prize then why occupy the hot seat and take away someone else's chance at trying for it?

For instance, I've played the game 2 times, total. The last time I played I was the 2nd fastest finger on the board. If the #1 player who took the hot seat was ineligible for the Grand Prize I'd be pretty steamed because they took the hot seat and wouldn't have been able to win (oh sure, they would have got pins and hats, but that's not what people are really playing for). Had they turned it down then I would have had a chance for it. (I don't know if they were eligible or not, therefore I am not mad. I'm just speaking hypothetically.)

cstephens
12-05-2003, 01:33 PM
Originally posted by Omar
That might be hard because the first show here at DCA starts at 12:00 and then you have to get in quick and get out to catch the soonest flight out of California to Florida. That flight is about 4-5 hrs. and I don't know the times at MGM, but it will be thight for time.

Someone else has already responded on this matter, but when I made my comment, I was thinking it would be done MGM first and then DCA, given the time difference.

motoxmagicdca
12-05-2003, 01:49 PM
Whats the MGM prize? Is it still a cruise?

EandCDad
12-05-2003, 02:50 PM
Originally posted by Bill Catherall
Alrighty, I've got a question, or maybe a statement (and I say this without pointing fingers and without judging anyone...just curious): If you aren't eligible for the Grand Prize then why occupy the hot seat and take away someone else's chance at trying for it?


I guess it depends if you are supposed to be inelligble for the hot seat or just for the prizes. I mean, in theory, this is something that is supposed to be entertaining and fun. The prizes are a great incentive and probably lots of people play with the prizes in mind, but it's purpose seems to be entertainment for everyone there.

If someone was not supposed to in the hot seat at all (per the rules) then I'd be upset if they were; however, if the rule just says they can't get the prizes or a particular prize (the cruise), then if they are playing by the rules, I have no problem with it. If they deserve to be in the hot seat, they deserve it. You were second fatest, not first. What's to get upset about?

Bill Catherall
12-05-2003, 03:07 PM
Originally posted by EandCDad
What's to get upset about? Yeah, if they're eligible for the hot seat but not eligible for the cruise then they wouldn't be breaking any rules. But since they cannot win the cruise they are, in effect, taking away someone else's chance. Sure, the purpose is to entertain, but part of that entertainment is to feel like you have a chance at winning the "million dollar" prize.

Of course, there's no way for audience members to know whether or not the person occupying the hot seat is eligible for the cruise. But what if they did know? Don't you think they'd be upset? If they can't win, what's the point? Wouldn't it be better to see someone there that can win?

tod
12-05-2003, 03:43 PM
Originally posted by Bill Catherall
Alrighty, I've got a question, or maybe a statement (and I say this without pointing fingers and without judging anyone...just curious): If you aren't eligible for the Grand Prize then why occupy the hot seat and take away someone else's chance at trying for it?
Please read the whole post, it's up there. --T

The difference, for me at least, is that the enjoyment is in playing, not winning.

I enjoy matching wits against the question writers. (Especially after they caught me on my first try with that Arkansas (http://www.mouseplanet.com/more/mm030318tod.htm) business.) I enjoy getting the pins and hats and shirts. And I'm glad that the hoard of trivia that's been sitting in my brain all these years is finally being put to use.

And considering that I never admit to ever having been in the Hot Seat before, and also seeing as the CMs have assured me that if I get another million-point question right they will blow out the confetti and congratulate me as if I did really win the trip even though we all know I didn't, you will probably never know that it was just putting on a show unless you read about it here.

--T
wishing somebody else luck in their attempt to go all the way twice in one day in two parks. Doing it once exhausted me: I can't even imagine doing it twice in one day, never mind the flight.

Drince88
12-05-2003, 03:58 PM
Originally posted by motoxmagicdca
Whats the MGM prize? Is it still a cruise?

Yes, the prize in Disneyworld is the cruise.

After our vacation in Oct/Nov, I now have matching 32,000 point shirts, and added a third hat to my collection, although the first shirt and 2 of the hats have "Disney's California Adventure" and the second shirt and third hat say "Walt Disney World".

But have yet to get a chance at the million point question (though I have missed the 500,000 point question!)