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iceman559
07-22-2011, 10:13 PM
I haven't seen this posted on here yet, so I figured I would. Personally, I hope they were able to determine whose backpack it was and that he was escorted out of the park.


Firefighters removed two-dozen people from a rollercoaster at California Adventure after a backpack fell onto the track and stopped the ride Friday afternoon, Disney officials said.
A backpack fell out of a "ride vehicle" on the California Screamin' rollercoaster about 6:30 p.m., landing on the track and causing the other vehicles to automatically stop, Disney spokeswoman Suzi Brown said.

http://www.ocregister.com/news/california-309357-ride-track.html

3Princesses1Prince
07-22-2011, 10:20 PM
Why would you expect them to be escorted out? It couldn't have been an accident?

candles71
07-22-2011, 10:25 PM
Why would you expect them to be escorted out? It couldn't have been an accident?

That is what I was thinking. Most people are not as careful about where their straps are as I am. Our backpack gets put under my legs with one strap around my ankle. I am glad no one was hurt, and they weren't stuck upside down.

iceman559
07-22-2011, 10:38 PM
Personally, I feel people should be held responsible for their belongings. If you can't keep it in the vehicle, and it results in a ride being shutdown, you should face consequences. People pay a lot of money to go to the park, expecting a ride to be open. I understand that rides can shutdown at any time, but you shouldn't have to worry about someone else causing the ride to go down through an act of negligence. I am very much for people being in control of their possessions regardless of where they are, theme park or not. Not only did this cause 22 other people to have to be rescued by ladder (which some people, such as myself, absolutely HATE being on), but if the backpack had fallen at the right time in the right place, it could have hurt someone. I'm not saying that he should have been charged or anything, just escorted out to prove a point to people that they need to be more careful with their belongings, especially on rides.

bennette
07-22-2011, 11:30 PM
Personally, I feel people should be held responsible for their belongings.

Um, wow. I think there is a difference between accidents and being grossly negligant (even if accidents are somertimes the physical consequence of negligance). I think I'm close to a level of neurosis in checking that my bags are secure but stuff shifts around. If things were easy to secure, they wouldn't have harnesses, straps, or bags on the rides! Heck, I'm sure my husband lost a hat on the Matterhorn once and he's nervous like mel.

I'm also pretty sure most people wouldn't like being removed from a ride by ladder but I think it's an inherent risk in a rollercoaster. I might be steamed or nervous after a long delay and being removed from a ride but I hope I wouldn't get so irritated that I'd be calling for the removal of the person whose bag it was. It could too easily be mine. :0

iceman559
07-23-2011, 12:10 AM
Well, I guess I should rephrase. If it is TRULY an accident, in that the person did everything they could to secure the bag and it still managed to fall out, then okay, accidents happen. But if someone just doesn't take the time to secure it or something, then I do believe they should be held accountable for what happens.

Malcon10t
07-23-2011, 06:48 AM
Well, I guess I should rephrase. If it is TRULY an accident, in that the person did everything they could to secure the bag and it still managed to fall out, then okay, accidents happen. But if someone just doesn't take the time to secure it or something, then I do believe they should be held accountable for what happens.Perhaps they should also fire the CM whose job it was to check that everything was secure before allowing the vehicle to pull out? According to your standards, the CM was negligent.

Mermaid
07-23-2011, 08:50 AM
Well, I guess I should rephrase. If it is TRULY an accident, in that the person did everything they could to secure the bag and it still managed to fall out, then okay, accidents happen. But if someone just doesn't take the time to secure it or something, then I do believe they should be held accountable for what happens.

And how are you going to prove that?

letshavefun
07-23-2011, 09:08 AM
I hope this doesn't change to where you have to put your bags in one of those cubby areas. Those things make me so nervous while I'm on the ride my bag with everything I need is just sitting in a cubby pretty much unsupervised while the car in front of you gets off your just hoping nobody takes your bag. That is one of those small things about Disney I love they let you take your bag with you on rides. Like you candles71 I wrap the shoulder strap under my leg.

I can't remember which park it was but they had lockers in front of each big coaster that you HAD to put your bags in. Which would of been okay but you had to pay for them too.

dban3
07-23-2011, 09:29 AM
I hope this doesn't change to where you have to put your bags in one of those cubby areas.

The little lockers at Grizzly River Run seem to work at well (free). I'm sure Disney will study this incident and if they have had a similar incidents in the past to determine a policy as to what is appropriate bring on the ride vehicle. I believe there is a cost associated with "calling the fire dept" as well as inspecting, then rebooting the ride. In the end, that backpack probably cost Disney thousands.

adriennek
07-23-2011, 09:38 AM
Well, I guess I should rephrase. If it is TRULY an accident, in that the person did everything they could to secure the bag and it still managed to fall out, then okay, accidents happen. But if someone just doesn't take the time to secure it or something, then I do believe they should be held accountable for what happens.


Perhaps they should also fire the CM whose job it was to check that everything was secure before allowing the vehicle to pull out? According to your standards, the CM was negligent.

What Mal said.

Now, I'm not finger pointing/blaming/flaming/condeming anyone. Just matter of factly, not every guest is an expert and is going to know the perfect way to secure a backpack on a ride, and that's why Disneyland HAS CMs to check and inform the guests.

My guess that the CMs will all be reminded to be extra careful checking the rides before they dispatch.

The very good news is that the ride systems worked and no one got hurt.

mousecanuck
07-23-2011, 10:29 AM
I can't remember which park it was but they had lockers in front of each big coaster that you HAD to put your bags in. Which would of been okay but you had to pay for them too.

Universal/Islands of Adventure in Orlando have lockers that use fingerprint technology; they are free - for the first 45 minutes (I think, don't quote me) or so and after that you have to pay. We didn't have to pay even once and we were there three days; it worked well.

I agree the CM needs to check - I do the wrap around my ankle/leg thing too, always, because of my own paranoia and it's never even shifted (I think DH said one time he had something shift on a ride and if he hadn't had it wrapped it could've fallen out - scary!) We've seen a hat on Matterhorn, too, off to the side - I always stuff hats into my bag/shirt/pouch; I've always been scared my glasses would go but never have. In Universal and Sea World we used one of those fabulous headbands sometimes but I don't think they'd go; saw LOTS of cel phones and camera's underneith a few rides, though, in the catch nets they have. Gotta make sure your stuff is SECURE!!!

tylerbo20
07-23-2011, 11:29 AM
this is nothing new i was there for 5 days last week and every day this ride broke down i even got photos of them rescuing people from the coasters...in fact i dont think there was one ride last week that didnt break down or come to a stop for a long period of time....Screaming, Toy Story, Buzz, Haunted Mansion, Splash Mountain, Pirates, Big Thunder, Tower, Space Mountain....hmmm i think disney needs to start fixing these rides asap lol....still had fun

dban3
07-23-2011, 12:34 PM
this is nothing new i was there for 5 days last week and every day this ride broke down i even got photos of them rescuing people from the coasters...in fact i dont think there was one ride last week that didnt break down or come to a stop for a long period of time....Screaming, Toy Story, Buzz, Haunted Mansion, Splash Mountain, Pirates, Big Thunder, Tower, Space Mountain....hmmm i think disney needs to start fixing these rides asap lol....still had fun

Sometimes the ride shutdowns and evacuations are more of a precaution than a mechanical failure. We got stuck on Peter Pan's Flight for more that 40 minutes when an emergency exit door blew open. Besides a physical inspection of each room by mechanics and castmembers, the amount of time it takes to power cycle the rides and the computer software that controls them takes a very long to reboot in many cases.

tylerbo20
07-23-2011, 01:16 PM
we waited on splash mountain for over 45 min to reboot the system

adriennek
07-23-2011, 01:23 PM
this is nothing new i was there for 5 days last week and every day this ride broke down i even got photos of them rescuing people from the coasters...in fact i dont think there was one ride last week that didnt break down or come to a stop for a long period of time....Screaming, Toy Story, Buzz, Haunted Mansion, Splash Mountain, Pirates, Big Thunder, Tower, Space Mountain....hmmm i think disney needs to start fixing these rides asap lol....still had fun

Yes but when they shut down rides for rehab, you get Piratepocalypse!

People cry foul, cancel vacations and lament their disappointment in Disney...

familymemories
07-23-2011, 02:58 PM
I am so glad no one was hurt. Things like that can happen. Sounds like the safety things for the roller coaster worked well.

disneyland addict13
07-23-2011, 06:34 PM
Any idea as to why the ride is still closed as of 1:00 PM today with cars still stuck on the track and workers on the track? Could the emergency shutdown have triggered an issue?

houseofmouse
07-23-2011, 07:07 PM
I think it's interesting to hear it is the CM"s job to make sure items are secure. I have never seen them doing that. EVER! I see them quickly tap the restraints and not even look down at the people!

I asked a CM to please lower my DD's restraint more as she was in front of me and I could not do it. He said it's fine. IT wasn't and she popped up in her seat several times. She thought it was great, me not so much. :mad:

heatherya
07-23-2011, 08:47 PM
Yes but when they shut down rides for rehab, you get Piratepocalypse!

People cry foul, cancel vacations and lament their disappointment in Disney...

lol :)

candles71
07-23-2011, 09:26 PM
Mousecanuck, Universal Hoolywood has them in front of Jurassic Park and the Mummy as well, fingerprint scanner. Since we go "off-season" we can ride both rides several times in the free time period without having to pay. Count me as nervous with the cubbies as well.
Level of Neurosis, I like it, it is much more polite than what I was trying to say. ;)

letshavefun
07-24-2011, 09:37 AM
After talking to hubby he reminded me it was Sixflags in Vallejo Ca. that had the paying lockers. I tried to take my (disney) backpack on a coaster, waited in line, got to the front and they said no bags. We went to the lockers and we were talking about what a racket the whole thing was. But that is way better than cubbies. Just have to budget for that next time.

Hey maybe I should down size so I don't need a bag at all. (never gonna happen:)

CMHusband
07-24-2011, 10:48 AM
I've always wanted to get trapped on a ride, but NOT THAT ONE!!! (I'm thinking Indy or Pirates)

familymemories
07-24-2011, 02:00 PM
http://mousepad.mouseplanet.com/showthread.php?171849-23-rescued-from-roller-coaster-at-California-Adventure-Los-Angeles-Times Here is the thread that connects to the report

iceman559
07-25-2011, 07:08 AM
In order to save face, I guess I should say that I've just had too many times where I've waited in line for a long time just to have it shut down because someone lost something. The first time I was ever going to go on Space Mountain (I was like 10 or 11 at the time), we waited in line for over 90 minutes and then a guy lost his wallet and they shut down the ride to look for it. Took me another two years to finally build up the courage to go on it again. That was perhaps the most annoying one that's happened to me personally so far.

Luckily, I've never been stuck on a ride when something like this has happened (all the times I've been stuck on a ride were, as far as I know, due to mechanical difficulties or slow-loading guests [Space Mountain]), but I don't think I'd be happy if I were.

And just to specify, I'm not usually a cynical person by any means, and very rarely do I think someone deserves to be escorted from the park. There are just two times that I think they should...if they deliberately attempt to ruin another guest's ride or experience, such as teenagers that yell and curse as loud as they can or mock the rides and just show overall immaturity, and if they fail to keep hold of their belongings if it results in or could result in guest injury or a massive ride stoppage (such as this one which took over a day to recover from).

Hate me if you want, but just know that I'm usually not this mean!