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richma
05-21-2008, 11:51 AM
Here are some recent DVC resales that made it past Disney's Right of First Refusal process......

BeachClub 270- $22,680; BoardWalk 50- $4,100; Saratoga 250- $20,250; BoardWalk 250- $20,500; Wilderness Lodge 50- $4,000; BeachClub 170- $15,300; Old Key West 70- $5,040; Old Key West 150- $10,500; Hilton Head 100- $6,700.

I'll try to add some new numbers every week or so...

Toocherie
05-21-2008, 02:08 PM
Thanks! this is great info

would it be too much trouble to add how much per point each one is? (I'm lazy!)

DVC Mike
05-21-2008, 03:59 PM
Both MouseOwners.com and DisBoards.com maintain ROFR statistics as well.

richma
05-22-2008, 05:28 AM
I've never been able to get approved to join on Mouseowners, but I'll try again. I managed to get a username on the Disboards yesterday and tried posting the same ROFR info but it was deleted a few minutes later. The Timeshare Store moderators won't seem to accept any info being posted there from an employee of International Properties/GMAC :confused:... The Disboards is their primary marketing tool to find new buyers so they are very restrictive on what information they allow there. I'm surprised DVC Mike hasn't been banned yet as he's said a few nice things about GMAC in posts..

I was OK on Disboards until I disclosed who I was. One of the other users, Grandbuddy or Laxmom, I'm not sure which- asked where the ROFR info came from and I replied sale data from IPGMAC.. A few minutes after posting that reply I got this notice from the site-


vBulletin Message

You have been banned for the following reason:
Promoting GMAC

Date the ban will be lifted: Never

Oh well- the owners of each discussion board have the ability to pick and choose what info shows there. I hope our sale data will be allowed here and be helpful to other DVC fans!


Here are the notices I have from last night....

Waivers........BeachClub 200- $17,000; Old Key West 50- $3,600; BeachClub 150- $12,750; Old Key West 200- $14,000; Saratoga 250- $20,250; Beach Club 150- $13,050; Vero Beach 50- $2,500


Exercised.......... Old Key West 232- $12,900; Saratoga 150- $11,250; Boardwalk 200- $14,200; Saratoga 400-$24,900; Saratoga 100- $6,900; Wilderness 350- $24,900;


Sorry I'm not posting price per point- we sell to many individuals that are new to timeshare and DVC (via our interactions with many of the marketing sites such as Timeshares Only and Myresortnetwork) and the offers we get from these buyers are normally not based on a price per point consideration. They simply see a listing priced at $22,000 and offer $19,500 etc.. Many also don't pay much attention to our offer recommendations to get past ROFR as you can see on some of the really low prices that get exercised.. :rolleyes:

There can also be slight variations to the purchase amount based on m. fee reimbursement agreements, closing costs splits, etc- but the base sale price should at least show you the latest trends. Again- I hope this info is helpful...

I'll try to add new info on this board every few days as we get new decisions in.. We are currently waiting on ROFR decisions on three Animal Kindgom sales of 160,300,& 400 pts.. I'll post that info when I get it.....Good to see you are active on this board DVC Mike.... :D

richma
05-22-2008, 10:15 AM
Here are a few more- Disney has been busy lately!

Passed ROFR- Vero Beach 150- $7500; Saratoga 220 $14,500; Wilderness 100- $8,300; Old Key West 230- $16,000; BeachClub 50-$4,400; Vero Beach 50- $2,750; Boardwalk 300- $22,900; BeachClub 225- $20,000; Old Key West 150- $10,500; BeachClub 200- $16,900

Exercised- Old Key West 300- $19,200; Saratoga 150- $11,250;

GusMan
05-22-2008, 11:52 AM
I was OK on Disboards until...
Moderators Note: This is a general reminder that it is against our community policies to talk about other boards in this manner. If anyone has a question regarding this policy, please feel free to contact any administrator or moderator.

Toocherie
05-22-2008, 03:58 PM
Here are a few more- Disney has been busy lately!

Passed ROFR- Vero Beach 150- $7500; Saratoga 220 $14,500; Wilderness 100- $8,300; Old Key West 230- $16,000; BeachClub 50-$4,400; Vero Beach 50- $2,750; Boardwalk 300- $22,900; BeachClub 225- $20,000; Old Key West 150- $10,500; BeachClub 200- $16,900

Exercised- Old Key West 300- $19,200; Saratoga 150- $11,250;

Without posting the points I don't think this info is of interest--and your info is surprising. For example--in the "passed" category is Saratoga 220 for $14,500--which comes out to $66 per point.

But in the "exercised" category is Saratoga 150-$11,250 which comes out to $75 per point! Why would Disney pass on something at a less point value than something higher? Maybe one of the other DVC mavens on this board can elaborate?

GusMan
05-22-2008, 05:32 PM
DVC might have many different reasons for their ROFR pricing. Some might include use year, how many points are left in the use year, are there banked or borrowed points, size of contract vs. demand, etc...

The way I see it... if I was willing to sell my DVC contract for x dollars, someone made an offer on it and Disney exercised ROFR, then at least I got what I wanted out of it.

Granted, it would stink if you were trying to sell it to a friend or family member for $x and they ROFR'ed it, but it is what it is. (But it still gets sold.)

richma
05-23-2008, 05:00 AM
Some of our clients have indicated that DVC will take into consideration the issue of transfers between family members if they are made aware by the member prior to the ROFR being submitted. While no confirmation of this has been received from DVC- certain transactions have seemed to pass ROFR at unexpected levels.

Also, there can often be situations involving estates, bankruptcies, etc where Disney is hesitant to exercise ROFR. Always remember- the fact that a contract passes ROFR does not mean that the transfer is completed!

We work with every major developer, and Disney has always been outstanding in that they take great care with their first right of refusal authority. As an owner- or a potential owner- you should take great pride in the developers support of your ownership. DVC is one of the very few programs that has been blessed with a consistent resale value for it's products.

richma
05-30-2008, 06:57 AM
Animal Kingdom - 160 @ $13,000. Waived today. I'm no longer going to post this type of info routinely- but wanted to share the AKV number as it is so hard to find. If anyone would like updated or recent numbers- please send me a private message.

AVP
05-30-2008, 12:24 PM
Animal Kingdom - 160 @ $13,000. Waived today. I'm no longer going to post this type of info routinely- but wanted to share the AKV number as it is so hard to find. If anyone would like updated or recent numbers- please send me a private message.Is it just me or is that really low? $81.25/point, compared to the current $94? They can't have had more than a year on it, right?

AVP

richma
05-30-2008, 12:31 PM
I was surprised as well. The offer was below the current recommended level. Disney may have taken into consideration the value of the current incentives they are giving to new buyers, and decided that exercising ROFR could actually result in a loss. (Those incentives are major right now!) I would expect the ROFR numbers to go up as the incentives change, or as more resales occur. Regardless- a great buy! The first AKV resale was at $99. The second AKV contract went thought at $95. and they've been around that mark until this one...

AVP
05-30-2008, 02:55 PM
Disney may have taken into consideration the value of the current incentives they are giving to new buyers, and decided that exercising ROFR could actually result in a loss. (Those incentives are major right now!)Eh, not that major. I detailed the current offer in this post (http://mousepad.mouseplanet.com/showthread.php?t=103924), and Disney would have to value the combined cost of the APs and the 3- or 7-night hotel stay at over $2300 to explain the difference.

In other words, if I bought a new 160 point contract at AKL at the current level, I would spend $15,360 and get the contract, 2 Premium DLR APs and the hotel stay.

If I bought the resale contract, I'd pay $13,000. Are 2 APs and a hotel stay worth $2360? Granted, I'd have a slightly shorter use period, but...

Oh well, now we know why I'm not the DVC expert.

AVP

richma
06-02-2008, 09:53 AM
Here are some new numbers I received at the end of last week.

(X=exercised/W=waived).

OKW 150 @ $9,000 X
OKW 300 @ $19,200 X

SS 100 @ $6,800 X
SS 150 @ $11,250 X
SS 150 @ $12,300 W
SS 180 @ $13,320 X
SS 200 @ $16,000 W
SS 300 @ $21,600 X

HH 100 @ $5,600 X
HH 220 @ $11,900 X
HH 400 @ $22,000 X

BC 250 @ $17,500 X

BW 150 @ $10,500 X
BW 174 @ $12,350 X
BW 200 @ $14,200 X
BW 210 @ $16,200 W
BW 225 @ $17,550 W

WL 210 @ $14,900 X

VB 150 @ $7,950 W

richma
06-06-2008, 08:23 AM
(X=exercised/W=waived).

BW 100 @ $8,500.- W
BW 150 @ $12,150.- W
BW 200 @ $16,400.- W
BW 210 @ $16,500.- W
BW 225 @ $17,950.- W

BC 170 @ $15,300.- W
BC 210 @ $18,690.- W
BC 250 @ $22,000.- W

SS 100 @ $8,000.- W
SS 150 @ $12,300.- W

VB 50 @ $2,500.- W
VB 150 @ $7,950.- W

richma
06-16-2008, 06:01 AM
(X= Disney exercised ROFR / W= Disney waived ROFR and sale going through to the buyer).


SS 100 @ $8,000.- W
SS 125 @ $8,375.- X
SS 150 @ @11,250.- W
SS 300 @ $21,600- X

BC 50 @ $4,400.- W
BC 150 @ $13,650.- W
BC 170 @ $13,690.- W (This one really surprised me!)

BC 200 @ $16,900- W
BC 210 @ $18,900.- W
BC 300 @ $24,000.- X
BC 350 @ $31,150.- W

BW 200 @ $14,200- X
BW 250 @ $19,250.- W (This one was also unexpected!)
BW 250 @ $20,500.- W

VB 150 @ $8,200 . - W

WL 350 @ $25,000.- X

HH 50 @ $3,400.- W
HH 150 @ $9,500.- W

HH 220 @ $11,900.- X

OKW 150 @ $10,500.- W
OKW 232 @ $13,000.- W
OKW 310 @ $18,000.- X

Karen Hufman
07-04-2008, 08:09 AM
Is there a web page that shows the ROFR exercised/waivers? We're wanting to buy a DVC resale and want to see what Disney's doing.

Drince88
07-04-2008, 09:31 AM
Richma is reporing what Disney's done on this very thread. I doubt if you'll find a COMPLETE listing anywhere, but I think his posts give you a really good idea of what's going on.

richma
07-14-2008, 09:58 AM
(X= Disney exercised ROFR / W= Disney waived ROFR and sale going through to the buyer).

AKV 160 @ $13,440- W
AKV- 160 @ $13,500- W


BC 250 @ $17,500- X
BC 300 @ $24,000- X

BC 55 @ $4,595- W
BC 70 @ $6,300.- W
BC 100 @ $8,900- W
BC 150 @ $12,750- W
BC 170 @ $15,300- W
BC 210 @ $18,690- W
BC 270 @ $22,950- W


BW 150 @ $10,500- X
BW 174 @ $12,500- X
BW 270 @ $19,800- X

BW 50 @ $4,300- W
BW 60 @ $4,980- W
BW 80 @ $6,560- W
BW 125 @ $10,250.- W
BW 150 @ $12,000- W
BW 170 @ $13,600- W
BW 200 @ $16,600- W
BW 250 @ 18,750.- W


HH 150 @ $8,300- X
HH 210 @ $11,390- X
HH 300 @ $16,900- X

HH- 100 @ $6,700- W


OKW 100 @ $6,000- X
OKW 150 @ $7,050- X
OKW 200 @ $13,000 - X
OKW 210 @ $11,500- X
OKW 300 @ $19,000- X

OKW 50 @ $3,600- W
OKW 270 @ $19,990.- W
OKW 200 @ $14,000- W


SS 50 @ $3,400.- X
SS 100 @ $7,350- X
SS 150 @ $11,500- X
SS 185 @ $11,100- X
SS 200 @ $14,400.-X
SS 250 @ $17,500- X
SS 350 @ $22,000- X
SS 400 @ $24,800.- X

SS 50 @ $3,950- W
SS 74 @ $5,995- W
SS 170 @ $13,290- W
SS 200 @ $15,600- W
SS 250 @ $20,250- W


VB 150 @ $6,900- X
VB 200 @ $8,400- X
VB 500 @ $22.500- X

VB 25 @ $1,250.- W
VB 45 @ $2,300.- W
VB 50 @ $2,890.- W
VB 60 @ $3,300.- W


WL 170 @ $11,900- X
WL 210 @ $14,700- X
WL 250 @ $16,900- X
WL 350 @ $24,500- X


WL 50 @ $4,170- W

richma
08-12-2008, 11:29 AM
ROFR decisions from the last three weeks. Again, only posted the highest price exercised or the lowest price waived respectively for each point allotment..


(X= Disney exercised ROFR / W= Disney waived ROFR and sale going through to the buyer).

AKV 160 @ $13,000- W

AKV 400 @ $30,000- X
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BC 44 @ $3,828- W
BC 110 @ $9,570- W
BC 150 @ $13,000- W
BC 155 @ $13,485- W
BC 170 @ $15,300- W
BC 200 @ $17,400- W
BC 270 @ $22,410- W
BC 310 @ $28,280- W
BC 350 @ $30,450- W

BC 270 @ $19,990- X
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BW 30 @ $2,500- W
BW 50 @ $4,300- W
BW 80 @ $6,560- W
BW 100 @ $8,500- W
BW 270 @ $18,900- W

BW 200 @ $15,600- X
BW 250 @ $17,750- X
BW 300 @ $21,900- X
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HH 100 @ $6,800- W

HH 150 @ $7,500- X
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OKW 80 @ $5,680- W
OKW 150 @ $10,800- W
OKW 220 @ $16,500- W
OKW 270 @ $19,980- W

OKW 100 @ $6,000- X
OKW 150 @ $8,100- X
OKW 200 @ $13,000- X
OKW 210 @ $11,490- X
OKW 270 @ $16,000- X
OKW 300 @ $19,200- X
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SS 50 @ $4,200- W
SS 100 @ $7,350- W
SS 130 @ $10,500- W
SS 150 @ $12,300- W
SS 160 @ $13,300- W
SS 170 @ $13,260- W
SS 200 @ $14,900- W

SS 120 @ $7,250- X
SS 150 @ $9,700- X
SS 160 @ $10,900- X
SS 185 @ $11,250- X
SS 300 @ $18,000- X
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VB 41 @ $2,250- W
VB 45 @ $2,300- W
VB 50 @ $2,750- W
VB 150 @ $8,250- W
VB 220 @ $11,000- W

VB 50 @ $2,500- X
VB 170 @ $6,900- X
VB 200 @ $9,000- X
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WL 125 @ $10,000- W
WL 181 @ $14,305- W

WL 250 @ $16,250- X

Drince88
08-12-2008, 12:03 PM
AKV 400 @ $30,000- X
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Wow, they don't even have the new part open and already someone is selling 400 points?

GusMan
08-12-2008, 01:08 PM
Wow, they don't even have the new part open and already someone is selling 400 points?
At $75 a point, I think someone needed the cash fast.

richma
08-22-2008, 02:37 PM
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New ROFR decisions. Again, only posted the highest price exercised or the lowest price waived respectively for each point allotment..


(X= Disney exercised ROFR / W= Disney waived ROFR and sale going through to the buyer).

AKV 160 @ $13,440- W
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BC 70 @ $6,300- W
BC 170 @ $14,450- W
BC 200 @ $17,600- W
BC 270 @ $22,410- W

BC 200 @ $14,800- X
BC 290 @ $22,000- X
BC 350 @ $26,900- X
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BW 60 @ $4,980- W
BW 150 @ $10,900- W (? Way below market..)

BW 150 @ $10,200- X
BW 200 @ $13,850- X
BW 255 @ $16,575- X
BW 300 @ $22,000- X
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HH 100 @ $5,600- X
HH 150 @ $7,900- X
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OKW 40 @ $2,700- W
OKW 50 @ $3,500- W
OKW 150 @ $11,100- W

OKW 150 @ $8,100- X
OKW 200 @ $10.900- X
OKW 230 @ $13,900- X
OKW 300 @ $17,500- X
OKW 310 @ $19,590- X
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SS 50 @ $3,950- W
SS 300 @ $22,000- W

SS 130 @ $7,540- X
SS 150 @ $10,500- X
SS 160 @ $10,500- X
SS 225 @ $13,050- X
SS 250 @ $16,250- X
SS 300 @ $19,500- X
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VB 60 @ $3,300- W

VB 500 @ $22,250- X

richma
09-10-2008, 09:31 AM
New ROFR decisions from the last few weeks. Again, only posted the highest price exercised or the lowest price waived respectively for each point allotment..

(X= Disney exercised ROFR :crying: / W= Disney waived ROFR and sale going through to the buyer :D).
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AKV 160 @ $13,400- W
AKV 210 @ $18,500- W

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BC 40 @ $3,400- W
BC 100 @ $8,900- W
BC 150 @ $13,500- W
BC 200 @ $17,400- W
BC 210 @ $18,900- W
BC 220 @ $19,900- W
BC 310 @ $27,900- W
BC 350 @ $31,500- W

BC 200 @ $14,800- X
BC 290 @ $22,000- X
BC 350 @ $26,900- X
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BW 25 @ $2,000- W
BW 31 @ $2,604- W
BW 75 @ $6,500- W
BW 100 @ $8,150- W
BW 150 @ $12,150- W
BW 170 @ $13,600- W
BW 200 @ $16,600- W
BW 350 @ $28,900- W
BW 400 @ $32,000- W

BW 150 @ $10,500- X
BW 200 @ $15,300- X
BW 300 @ $22,000- X
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HH 50 @ $3,300- W
HH 70 @ $4,900- W
HH 100 @ $6,300- W
HH 200 @ $13,000- W

HH 50 @ $2,500- X
HH 100 @ $5,300- X
HH 350 @ $18,900- X
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OKW 50 @ $3,650- W
OKW 100 @ $7,400- W
OKW 210 @ $14,490- W

OKW 150 @ $10,200- X
OKW 230 @ $13,900- X
OKW 250 @ $15,000- X
OKW 300 @ $17,400- X
OKW 350 @ $19,900- X
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SS 100 @ $7,350- W
SS 100 @ $7,600- W
SS 200 @ $16,000- W

SS 150 @ $9,700- X
SS 150 @ $10,050- X
SS 200 @ $12,000- X
SS 225 @ $13,500- X
SS 280 @ $18,500- X
SS 300 @ $17,900- X
SS 300 @ $19,500- X
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VB 25 @ $1,650- W
VB 50 @ $3,350- W
VB 150 @ $8,300- W

VB 150 @ $5,800- X
VB 200 @ $9,000- X
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richma
09-29-2008, 09:53 AM
New ROFR decisions from the last few weeks. Again, only posted the highest price exercised or the lowest price waived respectively for each point allotment..

(X= Disney exercised ROFR :crying: / W= Disney waived ROFR and sale going through to the buyer :D ).

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AKV 160 @ $13,600- W

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BC 30 @ $3,350- W
BC 150 @ $13,200- W
BC 200 @ $18,900- W
BC 300 @ $26,100- W

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BW 69 @ $5,727- W
BW 150 @ $11,999- W
BW 200 @ $15,882- W

BW 150 @ $11,500- X
BW 250 @ $17,250- X
BW 255 @ $16,575- X
BW 270 @ $18,900- X
BW 350 @ $22,750- X

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HH 150 @ $10,500- W
HH 200 @ $12,900- W

HH 50 @ $2,500- X
HH 150 @ $8,500- X

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OKW 210 @ $14,700- W

OKW 50 @ $3,000- X
OKW 100 @ $6,700- X
OKW 130 @ $7,800- X
OKW 150 @ $8,250- X
OKW 210 @ $10,800- X
OKW 230 @ $13,900- X
OKW 270 @ $16,200- X
OKW 300 @ $17,500- X

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SS 50 @ $4,100- W
SS 135 @ $11,000- W
SS 150 @ $11,700- W
SS 160 @ $11,900- W
SS 300 @ $22,000- W

SS 50 @ $3,200- X
SS 160 @ $10,000- X
SS 220 @ $14,300- X
SS 280 @ $18,200- X
SS 300 @ $19,000- X

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VB 50 @ $2,250- X
VB 150 @ 7,000- X
VB 200 @ $8,400- X

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WL 150 @ $10,950- W

WL 150 @ $9,750- X