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Join Date: Aug 2003
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It's official, and this time it seems like it was an overwhelming turn-out, and an overhwhelming vote to reject the Companies offer to the membership of the IESA. The next week should be interesting.
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Garden Grove
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Did you read the article in the business section of Wednesdays Orange County Register?
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Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Manteca, Ca.
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That threat letter mentioned in the Mouseplanet article was the lowest of the low. I'm beginning to hate the Rasulo/Ouimet regime more and more. I would expect this out of Pressler's people. That is very low to threaten someone's family and livelihood just to try to sway them to vote in an 11 month contract that will probably cost them their jobs anyway when Disney outsources.
Seems like something similar to this happened years ago when McKenzie advised Pressler to cut the maintenance budget by $16.9 million per year. Now look what's happened at the resort since then. Scary...
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Join Date: Aug 2003
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Just read the OC Register article and it sums it up well... http://www.ocregister.com/ocr/2004/0...cle_166561.php ...I thought you might enjoy the letter Tom Fox sent all of us...
July 2, 2004 Dear Cast Member, The proposal for a new collective bargaining agreement is being submitted to you again for your ratification. The last time that this offer was submitted for ratification, a disappointingly large number of Cast Members failed to vote. We want to ensure that everyone understands the importance of this process and the potential consequences of not voting or voting "no," so that any decision you make is based on a thorough understanding of the facts. So now let me come to the purpose of this letter: to tell you what may be the outcome for you if the offer submitted is not ratified, so that you will understand the potential outcomes of the vote and be able to cast your vote on a fully informed basis. To begin with, please understand that the management of the Disneyland Resort values the role that you as Security Officers play here at the Resort. Contrary to some of the concerns that we have heard regarding the duration of the Agreement, there are no current plans to "outsource" Security. Rather, the duration of the Agreement simply provides time to analyze the potential impacts of pending California health care legislation as well as other general business issues. We believe in the fairness of the terms proposed and have advised your Association that this is the last, best and final offer. If a majority of Cast Members again reject this final offer, you should know that the understanding reached by your Association and the Company may not be implemented. Because impasse has been reached at the bargaining table, with neither the Association nor the Company representatives prepared to further change their position to accommodate the other, the management of the Resort has the right to implement some or all of the final offer. With all of this in mind, you have some important decisions to make. If the Agreement is ratified, you will receive increased compensation and other favorable changes outlined in the communication that has been mailed to you by the Association. If the Agreement is not ratified, you may continue to work under the terms and conditions of employment that have been implemented. If employees choose not to work under these conditions, the Disneyland Resort will continue to operate, providing all employees who wish to work with the opportunity to do so. Further, temporary or permanent replacements may be legally employed for those employees who choose not to report to work. Obviously, their pay will end with the final day of work. Health benefits for all covered events occurring after an employee stops working will also end, subject only to their ability to continue coverage by paying the full cost, not just the weekly deduction amount. I hope this information assists you in making this critical decision. The offer you are currently voting on represents the best package that the management of the Disneyland Resort will propose. We encourage you to carefully consider the consequences of your decision for you and your family when you vote. Remember, this decision will be made by a majority of Association members who vote. We encourage you to vote yes and ratify the Agreement. Sincerely, Tom Fox Director, Labor Relations Disneyland Resort |
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Passamaquoddy
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ARG's Dad
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Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: That worked!
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I really didn't see anything unreasonable in that letter, although the language was definitely firm. Basically, it was just making it clear that the company wasn't prepared to alter the offer again and it outlined the standard consequences of a strike (pay and benefits end while replacement workers take over the jobs).
Obviously, the big question now would be whether either side was bluffing. -Jeff
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That said, the quote above is not a threat. It is reality. It is also condescending, as if the rank-and-file don't already know these things.
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"Gouging" is a four-letter word
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Toluca Lake, California
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My father is a Teamster, and I remember him walking picket lines many times when I was a kid. He didn't always agree with what the Union was doing, but he did understand something that I understand also - collective bargaining is the one thing that keeps many (not all) companies from returning us to 19th century working conditions. In the current sociopolitical climate, there has been a resurgence of union-busting tactics on the part of politicians and business owners.
As long as corporations are permitted to make end runs around the law and do everything it takes to improve their profits at the expense of the human beings on whose backs those profits are made, unions will be a necessary evil. And FYI, even though there were concessions made in the supermarket strike, current employees got what they wanted in the three-year contract. Unfortunately, new employees won't get the same benefits. The grocery industry will lose even more of the already declining customer service that has kept people loyally shopping at their stores. If they don't learn from the examples set by companies such as Costco, who know that how you treat your employees translates into a larger and better customer base, they will eventually cease to exist. -Allegra- |
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Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Irving, TX
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or permanent replacements may be legally employed for those employees who choose not to report to work. Obviously, their pay will end with the final day of work." Seems to me that the loss of someone's livelihood is their own choice in this case. And the letter also stated clearly that "Contrary to some of the concerns that we have heard regarding the duration of the Agreement, there are no current plans to "outsource" Security. Rather, the duration of the Agreement simply provides time to analyze the potential impacts of pending California health care legislation as well as other general business issues." It comes down to believing in the company. Perhaps there's some prior history that would lead some to disbelieve. But it seems to be pretty straightforward. I'm not a union fan at all, so I don't have too much sympathy for people in this situation. Play your games, push your hand, and when it comes down to it, do what's best for you and your family. And when things don't go your way, blame the evil company for screwing you. That's not the way I've tried to live my professional life.
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Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Manteca, Ca.
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Of course this letter is going to say they aren't outsourcing, that is not something that they would admit. What would stop them from outsourcing a year later and saying that they weren't planning it this year but decided it a year later based on consultation, such as what Pressler sought with McKenzie. This worries me as Disney has some of the best security in the business and I would hate it if it got as bad as the maintenance. |
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Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Irving, TX
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