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    this is starting to sound like a why not me, I'm entitled to it thread. Disney is doing this as a thank you and it is not "owed" to anyone. If after driving to southern California and found out I could not get the tickets it would not ad insult to injury, I would simply buy the tickets. I certanly would not plan my entire vacation arround a couple of free park tickets. Also with the overtime some were "forced " to worked I'm sure you can afford a park ticket.


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    Quote Originally Posted by rds912 View Post
    this is starting to sound like a why not me, I'm entitled to it thread. Disney is doing this as a thank you and it is not "owed" to anyone. If after driving to southern California and found out I could not get the tickets it would not ad insult to injury, I would simply buy the tickets. I certanly would not plan my entire vacation arround a couple of free park tickets. Also with the overtime some were "forced " to worked I'm sure you can afford a park ticket.
    I'm sorry, I guess I didn't clarify, I am not entitled to any of this, I am not a fireman/police officer/emergency worker. Nor do I know any involved. BUT, I do feel Disney has made a major faux pax. And do you have any clue about overtime worked by fire personnel? (There were several in our area who worked 6 straight days, 24 hour shifts to cover for the ones in LA.) I'm sorry you feel the firefighters from other areas who helped out don't deserve this reward. But, I think they do.

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    I also do not qualify for the Firefighters offer made by Disney, but I also think they made a mistake in limiting it to those "living" in the proper zip codes. I think it should have been offered to anyone who was sent to fight the fires in Southern California due to the recent Santa Ana Winds.

    I can understand why they do not want to offer the free ticket (and the steep discounts to the rest of the family) to a Firefighter back from the East Coast who came here on a planned vacation and had nothing to do with the recent fires in SoCal.

    But I think they need to find a way to thank all the Firefighters who helped in the recent fires, no matter where they live.

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    I'd think that it would be worth the potential loss of a few tickets like darkbeer mentioned vs the hundreds of personel that were involved in the efforts, from the volunteers (Ham operators ....I've got a dear friend who is a volunteer for his local PD as a Ham operator) to the fire/emergency/police services. While I realize that Disney didn't have to offer up any form of thanks, the money they'd make from folks spending in the stores and foods would more than make up for the loss of the ticket sales, and right now they are losing a lot of good will by the way they are handling this. I know that even New Mexico sent help...so for them to offer it and then limit it like So Cal AP's is a slap in the face to the entire community of emergency workers that gave so much during the recent fire fighting efforts.

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    "I can understand why they do not want to offer the free ticket (and the steep discounts to the rest of the family) to a Firefighter back from the East Coast who came here on a planned vacation and had nothing to do with the recent fires in SoCal" quote by darkbeer

    That is exactly why Disney should not offer a blanket discount to emergency workers, if they did you wou have eveyone from California to Maine with an ID showing up at Disney for a free ticket. The MAJORITY of affected personnel are from those zip codes, if ther was a quake in the bay area, a hurricane in the south or some other disaster I would hope that Disney would do the same for those areas, not the entire U.S. but hey, how about before giving the discount to emergency workers, maybe Disney should contact the Red Cross and find a list of displaced families and offer them a free vacation. After all the emergency workers were doing exactly what they get paid to do. None of the people that lost their homes signed up for that. Just thought I'd put things in perspective.


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    Quote Originally Posted by rds912 View Post
    The MAJORITY of affected personnel are from those zip codes, if ther was a quake in the bay area, a hurricane in the south or some other disaster I would hope that Disney would do the same for those areas, not the entire U.S. ....... After all the emergency workers were doing exactly what they get paid to do.
    I know you're extrapolating for effect some here - but I guess I disagree with the basic premise that it should only be the workers from Southern California, so the extrapolation is even more offensive to me.

    I live in the New Orleans area. There were National Guard units, fire fighters, etc (not to mention volunteers) from ALL OVER the country that came to New Orleans just over 2 years ago to help, especially with the initial response. People who cared to figure it out could tell where the unit was from that had searched a particular house for victims, based on the markings they left on the sides of the houses. If there was some 'discount to Disneyland' offered to emergency workers who were in Southern Louisiana in a given time frame, I would hope that Disney would give it to the Guard unit from Oregon* that searched the houses and helped rescue people as quickly as they gave it to the Guard unit from Southern Louisiana.

    *(I'm using Oregon as an example because I know there was at least one Oregon Unit in New Orleans, though I'm not sure if they arrived soon enough to help with the initial rescues, or just got to search houses for victims.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by rds912 View Post
    The MAJORITY of affected personnel are from those zip codes, if ther was a quake in the bay area, a hurricane in the south or some other disaster I would hope that Disney would do the same for those areas, not the entire U.S. but hey, how about before giving the discount to emergency workers, maybe Disney should contact the Red Cross and find a list of displaced families and offer them a free vacation. After all the emergency workers were doing exactly what they get paid to do. None of the people that lost their homes signed up for that. Just thought I'd put things in perspective.
    Actually, your perspective is even more offensive to me. But I don't have time for this today.
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    and why is this offensive, the fact is in a disaster the victims did not ask to be involved. emergency workers sign up to do exactly that, respond to emergencies whenever and wherever they occur, without any hope of additional compensation, period. that is what they do. they do that because that is what they chose to do, and most of them because they love what they do. Now I'm not saying a thank you isn't appreciated, but how do you, as a corperation like Disney, determine who helped out and who didn't. A letter? anyone can write a letter. so i guess the easiest eay is to use the geographic area of the problem. Now some people that responded might get left out, but they are the minority, and i am sure they would understand.


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    I am in no way trying to say that those who helped dont deserve the free tickets, all I am saying is if Disney were to open it up to a general "hey if you are an emergency worker that helped out with the fire, come to Disney for free offer" and there were no proof requirements or zip codes attached, then it would be taken advantage of.


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    Quote Originally Posted by rds912 View Post
    and why is this offensive,



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    t they are the minority, and i am sure they would understand.



    I'd ask you where you got the facts to determine that in fact the 'outside' agencys that responded to the disasters were in fact a minority? Firefighters from as far away as New Mexico, Colorado and Oregon responded when California needed them and with no expectations of more than the satisfaction of doing what they are trained and trained well to do. Marines from Camp Pendleton were actively involved in the relief efforts out in the community in spite of the fact that the fires directly impacted personel on the base.


    You state you're SURE they would understand, but if in fact that were true then this thread wouldn't exist because no one would mind that their involvement was so unimportant that they didn't warrent being recognized along with their brothers and sisters.



    "if" Disney opened it up to any person with the right creditenals (fire/police/emergency responders) would it get abused, it might, but at the same time if even 10 % of the folks came and took advantage of the offer didn't 'directly serve in some capacity ...be it on the front lines in So Cal or covering their own stations while a significant number of their manpower were dispatched so they're 'cheating'...they are still going to spend money in the parks. If I were Disney I'd be more than willing to eat that potential scenario than to knowingly offend so many of the folks that put it on the line for the rest of us every day of the week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rds912 View Post
    I am in no way trying to say that those who helped dont deserve the free tickets, all I am saying is if Disney were to open it up to a general "hey if you are an emergency worker that helped out with the fire, come to Disney for free offer" and there were no proof requirements or zip codes attached, then it would be taken advantage of.
    I couldn't agree more. Fire chiefs from the whole country who helped out in the fires should submit a list of their personel. Then Disney should send them vouchers of some sort that is non-transferable. End of story. If you were displaced as many of my family and friends were and your house is fine, they feel blessed enough. Those who lost there homes are concerned with other things besides a vacation that while the ticket will be free it will be costly in other ways.

    Come on guys cut them a break! Disney has to draw the line somewhere. I housed displaced persons. Should I get a free ticket? No. I did not put my life on the line like the firemen did. The rest of us just tried to help where we could. That should be reward in itself.
     

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    As the wife of a SoCal emergency worker I really feel that they offer should be made to those outside the area, I like the idea of the voucher sent to the departments that had to work the overtime, travel etc......
    My husband and the rest of his department (law enforcement) were put on mandatory 12 on 12 shifts for the week the fires were burning, he did have the awful task of escorting people to their homes to pick up necessary belongings and medication, only to have many of those homes no longer standing.

    However, by the weekend he was back to his normal schedule days off. For the next three weeks at the Courtyard by Marriot across from my office sat a small contigent of fire trucks from the central valley ready to go at a moments notice if the winds shifted and the fire headed back to population centers. The local fire department stayed on long mandatory shifts until the fire danger diminished, but those who left their homes to come save ours really do need some sort of reward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rds912 View Post
    then it would be taken advantage of.
    I'm willing to risk it being "taken" advantage of...

    Because for every firefighter who came here for the fires, there were firefighters that stayed home with skeleton crews and had to work extra days and overtime to help offset the missing crews that were fighting away from home.

    And just because there were firefighters and law enforcement that didn't come here for the fires, they have stepped up to the plate for other crisis situations and didn't get recognized or appreciated for those.

    Even if they didn't come, that doesn't mean that they weren't willing to come if they had the opportunity. That doesn't meant that they don't go out into our communities and step up to service.

    "Take Advantage"? Sorry, no.

    Life's not fair. And there are millions of people who deserve appreciation who don't get it. I don't have any firefighters or peace officers or even any military members in my immediate blood/marriage family - but that doesn't mean that I don't think they deserve a small thank you.

    And. So they get a ticket "DISCOUNT" Big. Whoop. If they're coming from out of town, they'll be purchasing food, lodging, souvenirs. They'll be dropping plenty o'dollars just to make the trip happen.

    A discount. Seriously. What's it going to truly "Cost" Disney?

    And piggybacking on walt'sbirthdaygirl's post...

    The firefighters from far away gave up much more than the local agencies did. I posted in the Lounge about an incident that happened in our community. Although we did not have any active fires in our community, AFTER the fires were contained and long after evacuated families had returned to their homes, we encountered two busloads of firefighting crews from a Navajo reservation in Arizona, eating dinner at a local restaurant.

    They had been away from all of their family and homes for two weeks fighting fires in San Diego.

    Two. Weeks. Local firefighters had the luxury of going back to their families. Not these crews. After our meal, my two older sons went from table to table to thank the crews for their service. One woman asked both of my boys for a hug. She explained that she had left two precious boys back home, hadn't seen them for two weeks, and missed them so much, but a hug from my boys would make her feel so much better. My boys are sometimes shy but they stepped up to the plate and gave her a hug.

    I don't tell this story to glorify my boys but the woman who willingly left her family behind for two weeks. And guess what? She probably can't afford to bring those boys to Disneyland anyway, even with a discount.

    I absolutely believe there's an entitlement problem in our society - but NOT in this case. What's the discount offer going to really cost Disney?

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    Quote Originally Posted by adriennek View Post
    I absolutely believe there's an entitlement problem in our society - but NOT in this case. What's the discount offer going to really cost Disney?

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    There is a HUGE entitlement problem in our society!! I agree! But are you suggesting that ALL firemen get a discount in a situation like this?
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by princessy777 View Post
    There is a HUGE entitlement problem in our society!! I agree! But are you suggesting that ALL firemen get a discount in a situation like this?

    Personally I wonder why Disney doesn't offer some sort of deeply discounted tickets to all firefighters and peace officers throughout the year - they put their lives on the line everyday for us. One of my friends is a LA Sheriffs Deputy and at some of the other parks he gets a free ticket no matter the time of the year and discounts for family and friends tickets. Disney doesn't offer anything like that.

    My brother is a volunteer fire fighter/EMT back in Virginia. When he goes to Disney he has to show his military id in order to get a discounted ticket. When he goes to other parks he gets a free ticket or at least half off the cost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhiSigDuchessCV View Post
    Personally I wonder why Disney doesn't offer some sort of deeply discounted tickets to all firefighters and peace officers throughout the year.
    That is so true! Military always get a discount whether they served in a war recently or are office personel who have never been deployed! So why not a discount for firemen & police officers?

    But then you've got to draw the line. Cause then everyone feels like well "what about teachers, what about EMT's?". Then they make the discounted rate what they'd like as the regular rate and charge everyone else more!
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by princessy777 View Post
    But then you've got to draw the line. Cause then everyone feels like well "what about teachers, what about EMT's?". Then they make the discounted rate what they'd like as the regular rate and charge everyone else more!
    exactly my point, where then would it stop. Disney did what they could without giving it every firefighter from xyz fire department in the midwest that had absolutely nothing to do with the southern cal. wild fires. The list could go on and on, nurses, teachers, EMTs, police, fire, military........

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    Firefighters and cops already get better benefits than the average American, get to retire earlier, and are by no means the most dangerous job out there. Fishermen, farmers and truckdrivers risk their lives everyday so we can have food to eat, all jobs more dangerous than fire/police work. I don't like the idea of general, everyday discounts based on profession.


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    Quote Originally Posted by VickiC View Post
    Firefighters and cops already get better benefits than the average American, get to retire earlier, and are by no means the most dangerous job out there. Fishermen, farmers and truckdrivers risk their lives everyday so we can have food to eat, all jobs more dangerous than fire/police work. I don't like the idea of general, everyday discounts based on profession.
    So you do not like the current everyday military discount?
     

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    Hadn't really thought about it before today, but yeah, probably. There are so many people who serve society in different ways for a variety of different reasons. Teachers, peace corp workers, clergy, etc, etc. Who is to say which ones are more worthy of a discount?


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    Using rds thinking though, none of the personnel, including the Southern Cal employees, that worked the fires should get a discount, as they were adequately paid and deserve no further recognition.

    Now, for those of us who do feel ALL deserve the discount, I agree, Disney will more than make up in food/souvineers the loss in the cost of the tickets. I don't think the abuse would be as bad as it can be, as not every fire fighter in LA worked the fires, yet they will all be allowed a free ticket. And is there any way to monitor if the fire fighter has had a free ticket, and not come a few times?

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    actually I think its ok for the involved firefighters to get the tickets, I just dont think it needs to be opened up any further, and no I do not live in California, I also dont think it should be expected for one doing their job, but a nice thank you, in Disney's case in the form of a free ticket, is appreciated.


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    Quote Originally Posted by rds912 View Post
    actually I think its ok for the involved firefighters to get the tickets, I just dont think it needs to be opened up any further, and no I do not live in California, I also dont think it should be expected for one doing their job, but a nice thank you, in Disney's case in the form of a free ticket, is appreciated.
    So, the 3,000 fire fighters involved from LA should be allowed, but not the rest of the fire departments? And the 3600 firefighters from NorCal shouldn't be allowed? Nor should the 1100 from Arizona? Nor should the 800 from Oregon, or the 400 from New Mexico, nor the 600 from Neveda, nor the 200 from Washington State, nor the few from Idaho?

    Adrienne, I know the crews from our area were there for just over 2 weeks also. We saw them on our way back from Disneyland. We had to wave at the trucks as we past them coming back. It was great to see the commeraderie of all the crews. The long line of trucks was impressive. You'd see trucks from little towns and from big metropolition areas.
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    OES has just requested our area to prepare to redeploy firefighters to the Malibu area for the new fire. I talked to my neighbor (who is a firefighter, but did not actively fight the last fire.) He said the rotation on the last fire was 36 hours on the fireline, 12 hours sleep time. He said one crew from our area went 50 straight hours before they were able to get out and get some sleep. This Malibu fire looks bad. They were showing a film feed of about 8 houses burning. Any one from the Malibu area, my prayers are with you.

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    I don't think this one will be as bad. The winds are not nearly as strong so the helicopters are able to fly and with no other fires burning right now they are getting maximum air support.


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