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    Be Our Guest- Wine and Beer at Dinner...

    So, this disneyparks blog story about the food is the first time I've seen anything about the restaurant serving alcohol... which is weird considering how closely/obsessively I've been looking for news on it...

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    Here's a link to a PDF of the full wine and beer menu:

    http://t.co/sPBOX7D6

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    This is actually pretty huge news, as of course the MK has been off limits for beer & wine since 1971. I think it's a great move, and am much more likely to dine there now. But I can see where some folks just might get their undies in a bunch over this. Should be interesting!

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    And they are saying it will only be during the Table Service times and only beer and wine. But I think this is a pretty slippery slope. This isn't like Club 33 in DLR. That's a very restricted place for one thing. Whereas Be Our Guest is going to be a pretty busy place for some time. And I don't think they will truly be able to keep it at only one restaurant. Alcohol makes money and anything that makes money usually gets duplicated everywhere...


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    I don't see it as a problem. It's not like they will be handing out "to go" cups (at least I hope not). Alcohol is available at all the resorts and other parks. I've been in the MK with people who wanted a drink and they make a quick run over to Poly and come right back. I don't think it's much different. Personally, I don't drink so it's a non-issue for me anyway, but even if I did I doubt I'd drink that much since a Coke runs $3 I can only imagine what a glass of wine runs! LOL


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    I'm glad to see the change but personally, I prefer mixed drinks. Though it's nice to know you can get a glass of wine in a French restaurant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danyoung View Post
    I think it's a great move, and am much more likely to dine there now. But I can see where some folks just might get their undies in a bunch over this. Should be interesting!
    I agree. I will be much more likely to attempt to get an ADR at Be Our Guest knowing I can enjoy a glass of wine with dinner.

    If only I could get one at the Liberty Tree....but see - that's how it starts! If it sells well at Be Our Guest, and really I can only assume it will, I wonder how long before it spreads to other table service dinner-time places?

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    If corporate Disney is about anything these days, it's about generating revenue streams under the auspices of providing quality entertainment value. Face it, there is just too much money to be generated from the sales of alcoholic beverages for Disney to turn their back on. That $40 dinner at Blue Bayou just jumped up $10 - $20 - $30 or more with wine pairings. On a hot summer day (like last week), someone enjoying a cold beer (or two) with their chicken and ribs at Big Thunder BBQ would be quite nice. It may even make the place popular. Disney is only talking beer and wine at this point but the profit margins on mixed drinks are even greater. A typical chain restaurant with full bar makes about a 750 - 1000% profit on a single mixed drink. At Disney prices, go up from there. The mixed drink may be a bit too much of a taboo breaker at this point, but within a few years or so, it too will make its appearance in Walt's park.

    What about Walt? - people are saying, he didn't want alcohol in his park. I don't think corporate Disney really cares about Walt's ideas at this point. That ship has sailed long ago. Walt Disney today is a tremendous marketing tool that has almost been reduced to character status. It seems if you want to see the real Walt Disney these days, you need made the trek to San Francisco and the Disney Family Museum where you can still be in awe of his creative imagination and genius.

    What about the kids? At the prices Disney charges, mass consumption of alcohol is a difficult proposition. It's just too expensive too go overboard and I'm sure Disney would have strict policies on serving those would did step over the edge to the point of affecting the enjoyment of other park guests (including children). They could also be restrictive on where alcohol is served in the park. But think of the casino model. Someone who just had a couple glasses of wine at Cafe Orleans may be far more likely to drop some dollars over at Pieces of Eight for little Jimmy on souvenirs. Cynical outlook? Kind of.

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    dban3 -

    I think you make some very valid points. Disney Resorts are there to make $ at the end of the day.


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    Quote Originally Posted by petesimac View Post
    Well, if I may, I think what MMlover means is that as MK is, essentially, the east coast Disneyland, it followed many if not all of the same "rules" that Disneyland (under Walt's direct guidance) followed, including no alcohol; the fact that this has been the rule at MK since its opening in 1971 lends credibility to this idea.
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    I recall the video of Walt talking about the "Florida Project" so he had some input
    While both of the above are true, the fact is that the exact layout of the MK, down to the detail of rides and restaurants, was not established when Walt died in 1966. So the rule of no alcohol in the MK, while based on the long standing DL rule, was a corporate decision, not a Walt decision.
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    I see the people at DCA with beers in their hands and I always wonder what kind of an example is that for kids? If you can't go to Disneyland without a having a drink, then that is very sad for you. It's becoming less about the kids and more about their parents. If you want a drink with dinner, go somewhere offsite (like Tony Roma's). Why teach your kids that mom and dad have to drink at amusement parks? Also, you have the select people at DCA who drink way too much and it shows. I have nothing against people who might want a drink every now and then, but I don't like the idea they're going to be carrying their booze around the way they do at DCA (and there will be those who do).


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    Quote Originally Posted by danyoung View Post
    This is actually pretty huge news, as of course the MK has been off limits for beer & wine since 1971. I think it's a great move, and am much more likely to dine there now. But I can see where some folks just might get their undies in a bunch over this. Should be interesting!
    I think it's a great move. I hope that DL starts serving beer and wine at Blue Bayou personally. We would be more likely to start eating at a restaurant that served wine or beer. Not that we are big drinkers but I like having a glass of wine with my meal.

    Quote Originally Posted by dban3 View Post
    What about the kids? At the prices Disney charges, mass consumption of alcohol is a difficult proposition. It's just too expensive too go overboard and I'm sure Disney would have strict policies on serving those would did step over the edge to the point of affecting the enjoyment of other park guests (including children). They could also be restrictive on where alcohol is served in the park. But think of the casino model. Someone who just had a couple glasses of wine at Cafe Orleans may be far more likely to drop some dollars over at Pieces of Eight for little Jimmy on souvenirs. Cynical outlook? Kind of.
    No not cynical to me. I agree with this completely. Alcohol at DLR is too expensive for people to really get trashed. Of course you will always have the exception to that but I would bet most drunk people you see at California Adventure didn't get drink everything there. They probably started somewhere cheaper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joannefm2 View Post
    I see the people at DCA with beers in their hands and I always wonder what kind of an example is that for kids? If you can't go to Disneyland without a having a drink, then that is very sad for you. It's becoming less about the kids and more about their parents. If you want a drink with dinner, go somewhere offsite (like Tony Roma's). Why teach your kids that mom and dad have to drink at amusement parks? Also, you have the select people at DCA who drink way too much and it shows. I have nothing against people who might want a drink every now and then, but I don't like the idea they're going to be carrying their booze around the way they do at DCA (and there will be those who do).
    This appears to be misdirected to a certain extent. Disney seems to have no issue with people walking around with florescent yellow cups in DCA. The Cove Bar is an open air cocktail lounge. Many believe that street parties such as ElecTRONica and Mad T. Party are thinly veiled disguises for the selling of high priced alcoholic beverages. At EPCOT, the practice of spending a day drinking ones way through the World Showcase is common place (and handsomely profitable for Disney). So Disney provides the means and opportunity, people just do what is permissible. The other thing that seems to be out of place is that a Disney park is exclusively for families. It's not - it's for newlyweds, single adults, couples just needing getaway, older people whose kids have left the house. Something like the Food & Wine Festival caters to adults without kids. As long as things are kept under control (which is something Disney prides itself on), there is room for enough for everyone young and old to enjoy.

    If you really want to show kids a bad example, try a professional baseball or football game or even Friday night at Applebee's.
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