I know you really really like ripping John Carter a new one, but let's get our facts straight before we start spouting off hyperbolic nonsense like "the biggest movie flop in history to date." John Carter has been struggling, and it's certainly not the hit that Stanton wanted it to be, but it has been marginally successful despite the pre-mature negative feedback. It has received a high degree of praise from the general public who has seen it and as of this weekend it has officially made back its budget (and, it should be noted, the movie is still playing, it's not likely to earn a ton more, but it will earn at least a little more before that number is final).
Will The Avengers outperform John Carter? Duh. Even if John Carter had made back twice its budget (the unofficial, yet universal marker of legitimate "success" in Hollywood) it still would have been beaten out by The Avengers which will almost certainly earn at least $1 Billion in world wide box office sales. And even then The Avengers will likely be beat out by The Dark Knight Rises, which itself has a high probability of being beat out by The Hobbit.
If you take into account the supposed marketing budget of $100 million (which, in my opinion, is extremely fishy because a few trailers, posters, and TV spots with zero merchandising is not a $100 million marketing campaign) the film has lost roughly $95 million or 27.2% of its budget. If you take a look at a list of the biggest box office bombs of all time a 27.2% loss would put it at 190 on the list, a long shot from "biggest flop in history to date" and is even surpassed by other Disney efforts including Mars Needs Moms (77.7% loss) and Treasure Planet (39.1% loss). Even if we're talking strict dollar amounts rather than percentages, Mars Needs Moms lost $136 million and is the highest loss without adjusting for inflation. If we go even further and adjust for inflation, 1995's Cutthroat Island is the biggest bomb of all time with a loss of $147 million.
So please, if you're going to make a new thread about a different movie as a thinly veiled attempt to go off on John Carter again, at least do us the courtesy of five minutes of research.
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