Saw on another Disney Blog that they're going to start enforcing FP return times at WDW beginning on 3/7/2012. Is this old news? I hadn't heard about it before. The blog post said there are no known plans to do this at DLR. I sure hope not!
Saw on another Disney Blog that they're going to start enforcing FP return times at WDW beginning on 3/7/2012. Is this old news? I hadn't heard about it before. The blog post said there are no known plans to do this at DLR. I sure hope not!
A CM told DH that they would be doing it at DL as well. This happened Tink weekend and they also said March.
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So when they say "enforcing" is this going to mean the 2 hour window they give you only...or anytime after the start of the window?
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It means if your return time is between 12:40 and 1:40 then you can go during that time span.
I wonder though how this is going to work really? With rides breaking down or being in DCA park hopping? City Hall is going to have a long line. But I am betting this for Disneyland Resort has something to do with Carsland opening and being able to control the lines and the FP return lines.
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The window of time. They currently allow "anytime after the start time" and this would put it back to within the window. While many are used to the "pick up all you can and use at night", this will slow down the running out of FP at 11am, and will stop the clog of the standby lines in the evenings. Anyone trying to ride Soarin' at 7pm and has experienced seeing the "short" line, only to wait 45mins or longer because the FP line is out past Taste Pilonts knows what I mean...Originally Posted by tinkaparis
Planning 3 trips at once...
The word is that CMs will. Be instructed to allow them 5 minutes early and up to 15 minutes late.
Shannon
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So just in time for spring break. Rats, thats when we are going.
Nooooo! This kills our strategy completely (I'm with those who collect as many as they can then return at night). However, before becoming a Mouse Planet member, I never knew you could use the FPs outside of their window, and somehow my family still managed to line up a nice day full of FPs. I am trying desperately to remember how we worked it because we had worked out an order of collecting/riding that seemed to fit almost everything in. I guess I better figure it out soon!
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With all due respect to those affected, it's hard for me to understand building an entire strategy out of bending the rules. True, Disney allowed and even encouraged this. But they're not actually taking something away - they're just making the system work the way it was designed to work.
Dan
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Is this a rumor or official?
This was recently discussed on the boards, and it seemed like people didn't think it would happen because of too many potential issues with ride closures, etc.
I don't get why people use them at night? Usually if I have a Fast Pass I don't need it at night. I have had several go unused and this is during the summer. I use mine middle of the day or right when my window opens up for Star Tours.
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Rumor....at least for DL.
Shannon
Mommy to 3 Princesses and 1 Prince
Miss M(11), J(8) and R(5), and Mr. N(4)
I don't save them to use in the evening but I don't always get back in time within the window! Sometimes by design, though :/
We have gotten some that were directly over a Ressie at the Bayou and couldn't make it. If that happened we would just go after.
I just think that there are to many variables that it would almost be impossible at DL to enforce this. I know that some will disagree but it is true. Just to many "what if's".
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This was on the Touring Plan site:
Cast Members at the Walt Disney World Resort have been informed that enforcement of the FASTPASS return time window will begin on March 7, 2012. This means guests will be allowed to return to an attraction with a FASTPASS during the time frame indicated on the FASTPASS – not anytime after the window as with the previous policy until now.
Some leeway is being built into the new policy – guests can now return 5 minutes prior to the window (ending the backlog of guests who arrive a few minutes early), and Cast Members are being told to accept the FASTPASS up to 15 minutes after the window as a courtesy.
Currently this new policy is anticipated to roll out on Wednesday, March 7, at the Walt Disney World Resort, though there is still time for Disney to change the exact date and time this goes into effect. There is no word of a similar policy for the Disneyland Resort at this time.
The only variable that would interfere is if the ride went down during your window of time. As for as dinner ressies, if you see the time is during your ressie, just don't grab a FP then.
Planning 3 trips at once...
We park hop. We spend our mornings in the stand by lines at DL(grabbing fast-passes as we go). Then spend a few hours at CA. Then we head back to DL in the late afternoon use our fastpasses and leave the parks by 830. Fast passes help us use our time wisely to make the most out of our trip. I hope they don't do this at DL.
OF course, we will still go to the parks if they do!
Unless you were on another ride that went down and delayed you. Unless the parade kept you from getting across the park in time. Unless the service was slow or you were seated late for a meal you planned to finish before using the FP. There's a whole slew of reasons, which is why (I assume), they've always taken them late. Can I cope if they enforced it? Sure, managed in Paris and they strictly enforce their 30 minute window. I do hope this is limited to WDW. A lot of reports/rumours of this next gen stuff are things that I don't think will fly at DL, and, with luck, this is one of them. They seem to be on the verge of not just giving more to resort guests in WDW, but taking away from day guests. Fortunately, I don't see many people that visit DL wanting to choose the exact time they want to ride Autopia or eat lunch 6 months in advance
Some complain that FP kills spontaneity, but getting them early to use in the evening gives me much more spontaneity at night because I've got so many options, and have already been on the non FP attractions with long waits early in the day before those waits developed. And if things change I'll change my strategy.
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We use the same game plan… fastpass hoarding and standby lines in the morning. However, on our last trip 2 weeks ago, there were several instances where the fastpass lines were unusually long (Space, Indy and Big Thunder). I got the feeling that showing up after the window was no longer a little known secret and I mentioned that I bet that policy ends soon.
Sure, I can deal with it if it is enforced, but they will have a problem on their hands when parades and ride closures keep people from making their return times. I hope they have a reasonable action plan for this.
Yeah, the plan is for CMs to tell people that they missed their window, and they need to get there earlier next time. If a ride is closed, then the CM gives you a ticket good for use later in the day. Kinda the same thing they do now when you're on a ride that goes 101.
Dan
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- James Taylor
Yeah, Dan... that's what they'll do. I mean, it's that kind of handling of a situation by CM's that makes Disneyland such a special place.
I can think of several times where I've be trapped in one hemisphere of the park or the other because of a parade. Perhaps instead of a lecture that will serve more to anger a guest than solve the problem, they should extend the window for fastpasses scheduled during parades.
I think the ease and frequency people park hop in DLR compared to WDW would be a main factor as to why the FP enforcement wouldn't work here.
Shannon
Mommy to 3 Princesses and 1 Prince
Miss M(11), J(8) and R(5), and Mr. N(4)
It's not like the parades pop up out of nowhere. Disney tells you when and where they are going to happen. If you want to watch the parade, and the return time is during the parade, don't get a FP. If you know you have a FP and there will be a parade running when you are supposed to return, don't go to the other side of the park. (Also, the parades don't completely cut you off, or hold you hostage.)
And what really happens when you miss the FP return? You wasted a piece of paper. The standby line is still available and there are probably more FP for a later time. If missing that ride was so important that it will completely ruin your entire day or your entire trip, it was your responsibility to get there in the hour window, not Disney's to make an exception for you. The window is an hour, if something happens to delay you for an entire hour, you have bigger issues than a FP expiring.
It's easy to look on a park map and see when a parade is etc and plan accordingly. And sometimes you'll get stuck or whatever. So you miss the time. Then you either just get in the standby line or get another fastpass for a later time. A fastpass is a reservation in line for a certain timeframe. You miss the timeframe then you have to do something else. No one will be happy no matter what you do but a clear across the line enforcement for everyone seems the most fair.
Or what Jenny said above
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