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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex S. View Post
    And I may be a little too sensitive about being condescended to or looked down upon for not drinking wine having recently had that experience at a reasonably nice restaurant of a waiter doing just that
    We deal with that at many "nice" restaurants (including at Napa Rose in the earlier years), and that might be why I was so pleased to see this.

    Had this been presented in an at all less-than-professional manner, I might have had a different reaction. Instead, the server presented this as a genuine effort to offer a beverage option to the non-drinkers. I posted this in another thread, but here's how we came to learn about this option:
    At the start of dinner we had that awkward moment we've come to expect at wine-centric restaurants, where we regretfully inform our server that we don't drink alcohol, thereby crushing their hopes of a larger tip on our wine consumption. Our server Rashelle didn't bat an eye, and instead offered us a non-alcoholic wine flight.
    She didn't do it in a mocking or condescending way AT ALL - it was as if we said, "we don't like apples," and she said "ok, I've got some wonderful blueberries I can offer instead."

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    I'm actually surprised that this is a new offering at Napa Rose. There are several restaurants in LA that offer a non-alcoholic beverage pairing designed to complement their menus. It seems like a natural for Disney.

    I suspect that this pairing may have been designed to serve the dual purpose of appealing to both non-drinking adults and kids that are dining with their parents. The varietal grape juices are delicious, but still quite sweet. There are some pretty sophisticated, food friendly beverages now that I'd expect to see if they were just targeting adults, but those probably wouldn't appeal to the kids.

    Regardless, it sounds like a nice addition to their line-up.

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    Before the husband started really drinking wine, I don't ever recall being given any kind of attitude about us not being wine drinkers, so I'm always amazed when I hear that other people have encountered that. When I pass on the wine, the servers don't seem to give it a second thought, and when neither of us is having wine on a particular night (yes, at nice restaurants as opposed to Chili's or something like that), no one seems to care. I don't think I'd react very well if someone gave me attitude about it.

    And I don't think *anyone* should pressure someone else into drinking, for any reason, since they have no idea why that person might not be drinking. It could be a personal choice or medication or unannounced pregnancy or whatever - it's really no one's business why someone else isn't drinking.



    I was thinking that it's been a while since I've been at the lounge, and I thought I remembered them having a separate menu. I know you can sometimes also order off the regular menu there, but I remember there being items that you could ONLY order in the lounge, but the current menu just looks like selections from the regular menu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AVP View Post
    At the start of dinner we had that awkward moment we've come to expect at wine-centric restaurants, where we regretfully inform our server that we don't drink alcohol, thereby crushing their hopes of a larger tip on our wine consumption. Our server Rashelle didn't bat an eye, and instead offered us a non-alcoholic wine flight.
    This will fall under the category of "There's no such thing as service that will please anybody."

    I don't want my server to be offering me stuff, inquiring about certain categories. I hate when they try to guide me into specific choices or to get me to fill a hole in my selections.

    There's a wine menu on the table. If I don't order wine, the issue should never come up, it shouldn't be necessary for me to explain to a stranger that I don't drink wine, that I don't like wine, that I'm an alcoholic so please don't make jokes about being a wet blanket, etc.

    So by my preference there is never a winder in which a waiter would say "oh, you don't do wine, well would you prefer some juice." Put it on the menu, I'm an accomplished reader, I'll let you know if I have any questions or requests.

    To me it is like if servers came to take your order and said, "ok, what kind of fried appetizer could I get you? You don't want one? Well how about a nice raw seafood appetizer? No, really? Well ok, what are you going to want for your pasta entree..."

    And now I'm about to go off one the BS of recently having lunch in a restaurant that tried to tell me they don't "do" tap water, but they have lovely $10 bottles of still water.

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    [QUOTE=adriennek;1579989]So now I'm chopped liver???????? I work very hard to maintain my Napa Rose Groupie standing...

    I knew I should have said "AND any other foodies out there" Thanks for the recommendation Adrienne but I actually do not care for chopped liver. On the other hand the TASTING menu sounds like a great idea. I like to eat good food but I hate pigging out. That is why I pop in for the cheese plate even on a day trip to DL/DCA! I will never leave you out again Adrienne!

    Thanks for the idea of the SOUP and that Salad cstephen. I think I had the mushroom bisque once but I have not tried the salad yet. That is on my list. I sit at the bar a lot and they are always so helpful. Love that place. So as the month progresses if you three OR OTHERS eat there let me know what is good. Then when I arrive at the resort I won't even have to make food decisions. I love vacation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadasaHatter View Post
    Thanks for the idea of the SOUP and that Salad cstephen. I think I had the mushroom bisque once but I have not tried the salad yet. That is on my list.
    That salad really is yummy. I mean REALLY.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fairestoneofall View Post
    That salad really is yummy. I mean REALLY.
    It's my all-time favorite thing on the menu. I develop cravings for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AVP View Post
    It's my all-time favorite thing on the menu. I develop cravings for it.

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    My husband and I dined outside of the lounge Wednesday evening. It was our 26th anniversary, and we had the patio to ourselves.

    Quote Originally Posted by cstephens View Post
    I was thinking that it's been a while since I've been at the lounge, and I thought I remembered them having a separate menu. I know you can sometimes also order off the regular menu there, but I remember there being items that you could ONLY order in the lounge, but the current menu just looks like selections from the regular menu.
    While I was interested in appetizers and wine, my husband wanted to order a dinner entree. The waiter brought both of us full menus and removed the lounge menu from the table. He explained that the appetizers listed on the regular menu were the exact same as those on the lounge menu.

    Quote Originally Posted by MadasaHatter View Post
    ...So as the month progresses if you three OR OTHERS eat there let me know what is good. Then when I arrive at the resort I won't even have to make food decisions. I love vacation.
    My husband ordered the salmon. I had a few bites as well, and we both agreed it was amazing. Melt-in-your-mouth amazing. I ordered the signature pizzeta and a green salad. In addition to the ingredients listed, the chef added figs to the pizza. It was delicious. When it arrived, I was already in heaven from the array of breads, the fresh greens, and the Moon Mountain cabernet.

    My mouth is watering this moment. It was a perfect meal, and a perfect atmosphere.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadasaHatter View Post
    So as the month progresses if you three OR OTHERS eat there let me know what is good. Then when I arrive at the resort I won't even have to make food decisions. I love vacation.
    We went just over two weeks ago. Here's my review which includes chef's selections for myself and my husband and what we thought of each course.
    ETA: It's post #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by neverlander View Post
    When it arrived, I was already in heaven from the array of breads, the fresh greens, and the Moon Mountain cabernet.
    We first drank Moon Mountain at NR several years ago. I regularly pick it up at World Market (for considerably less than at NR, naturally, but that's how it goes in nice restaurants.) But if you haven't already looked for it outside of NR, check out World Market!

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    Quote Originally Posted by adriennek View Post
    But if you haven't already looked for it outside of NR, check out World Market!

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    Thank you for the tip! We do have a WM here in Eugene, so I'll check it out.
     

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    Navarro Vineyards

    I've been a member of the Navarro Vineyards wine club for about 15 years. While I have joined and then later canceled being a member of many clubs over the years this is the only one I've continued to belong to. It's a family owned vineyard who's philosophy is to make great wines at reasonable prices so everyone can enjoy them.

    They also bottle three wine juices, two for drinking and one for cooking. As they explain on their website they started making it 25 years ago to service to children who visited their tasting room. Both the Gewztraminer and Pinot Noir juices are excellent although I think I like the Gewztraminer a bit more than the Pinot. These juices are NOT your typical Welch's for breakfast type grape juice. It is definitely a grape juice you open for special occasions. The Gewztraminer juice is bottled in a Gewztraminer bottle and the Pinot in a Pinot Noir bottle. I always have several bottles on hand in my cellar for my non-drinking friends to enjoy when they are visiting.

    I would encourage you to check out the story behind the Navarro Grape Juices at their website. If you are a wine drinker you might want to also check out their awesome selection of regular wines, they are delicious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adriennek View Post
    So now I'm chopped liver????????
    nah... definitely a Beef Medallions plate at Blue Bayou...
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    Quote Originally Posted by olegc View Post
    nah... definitely a Beef Medallions plate at Blue Bayou...
    I don't think you're helping with that comment...
    I guess I have a glitch in my matrix.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cstephens View Post
    I don't think you're helping with that comment...
    Probably not, but it helped ME giggle this morning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by olegc View Post
    nah... definitely a Beef Medallions plate at Blue Bayou...
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    Quote Originally Posted by adriennek View Post
    I admit, I laughed.
    good. that was the plan all along.....
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    Does anyone know if they will be serving their delicious Hot chocolate now that cooler weather is on its way? Can you order hot chocolate in the lounge?


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    Love this thread! Thanks for all the great ideas.

    What is this Hot Chocolate you speak of????


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    The hot chocolate I speak of is the most delicious hot chocolate I have ever had in my life. Last time we were at the napa rose they didn't have it.


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    We had dinner at the Napa Rose Lounge tonight, and I ended up getting the Vintner's Menu. I can't remember exactly what the amuse bouche was, but it was something like deep fried shrimp, and it was on the end of a fork, sitting on a small bed of shredded seaweed. Yummy, as was dinner itself. I had a lemon drop with dinner, and then I had a chocolate martini with dessert - the chocolate martini was particularly good.

    I'd really wanted the fried zucchini blossoms and blistered eggplant, but the vintner's was really just calling to me tonight. Maybe on my next visit, but I'm not sure if it'll still be on the menu then.

    The husband had the rabbit meatloaf and the New York steak, both of which he enjoyed. He also had sugar-free citrus panna cotta for dessert that came with a generous portion of strawberries, blueberries and raspberries. The dessert isn't listed on the menu, but they oftentimes have a sugar-free offering, so you can ask about that. He doesn't care for blueberries or raspberries, so I had some extra berries for dessert!

    Dinner was terrific, and the company was even better.

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    When we go in December I think I will call in advance and see if I can request the hot chocolate. (I'm obsessing)


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    Let's see, I was there last night with friends and as I don't think anyone has posted about their experiences in at least a week I thought I would share a little.

    I thought originally we would be in the lounge but we ended up in the restaurant at a "regular" table (gasp!). I was too excited by seeing my friends to do much thinking but I was starving so I let the chef choose (via our wait person; the chef doesn't come out to tables to chat you up about your likes, or at least he/she doesn't come out for me!). The vintner's menu definitely wasn't calling to me, as it featured both a dish made with liver and one with green garbanzos. I've heard green garbanzos are wonderful but...me and garbanzos, it's just not going to happen. Liver? Well, no. Just no. I also had the wine flight and let them pair for me. Please note that due to the lively discussion, this is not my closest food observation night ever.

    I explained my aversion to organ meats and brains (both of which were on the menu last night) to the server as well as my preference for old world wines. I do like to pick my own dessert, which I mentioned.

    So...everyone at the table got an amuse-bouche made of a sesame tuille rolled into a cone and stuffed with marscapone, diced canary melon, and duck prosciutto. Very nice.

    My first course was the Szechuan pepper seared ahi. The menu has changed up a bit since AVP posted it earlier this month. This ahi came with corn but no favas. There was a garnish of what I think was "micro" cilantro along with a sauce that was vague but delicious. It was paired with a VERY dry German Riesling; plenty of minerals (yay!).

    Next up was an small portion of one of last night's entrees, which was striped bass. Bass isn't my favorite fish but cooked as it was in a sauce with roasted red pepper, roasted cherry tomatoes, capers, and plenty of delicious fennel (!), it was delightful. The bass was served with a French Chardonnay. I like French Chardonnay and this paired very well with the fish but it came a little bit after the fish was served so my eating/sipping schedule got off! I didn't like the wine as well alone although I suppose that is the point of a good pairing; to make the wine taste even better.

    Next up was the "Skillet roasted "Prime" New York - Blistered tomatoes, sweet onion carbonara, white cheddar chive potato tots." I would like to point out there was only ONE tot, although it was fairly large. I don't tend to order steak much when we are out and certainly not here but my goodness, was this delicious. The tomatoes were particularly delightful. I *think* this was paired with a Cotes du Rhone. (Is that right? I would think they would have given me something a little more powerful with a steak although I suppose you can find almost anything in a Cotes du Rhone. Anyway, it was delicious and I drank it all; if anyone who was present remembers it being something different, please speak up!)

    I had a hard time choosing dessert; nothing really spoke to me. I went for the peach cake with peach sauce and peach ice cream. It was peachily delicious. It was served with a Sauternes. Gah. I cannot handle this wine; not even the smell. (Noble rot, my foot!) I did try it because I am frequently surprised at the pairings there but while it did taste a little better with the dessert than I thought it did by itself I just.could.not.like.it. I didn't send it back as I'd had plenty at that point although I am realizing now I imagine SOMEONE at our table could have choked down a glass of Magicale if I'd asked for it.

    Other items consumed by our party included the Smiling Tiger salad; this week's salad of heirloom tomatoes; argula; goat cheese; and beets (ordered by someone who does not really care for beets or goat cheese! <g>); the bass as a full entree; this week's lamb chop entree; a plate of ice cream; a PLATTER of sorbet and berries; and I *think* a chocolate pave something or other. Plus some beverages. I think one lamb chop got boxed up to take home; otherwise I don't recall seeing any leftovers.

    ETA Squash blossoms were not on the menu last night so if you are still dreaming about them, you might have to make them yourself this year.

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    When does the fall menu come out? I walked by today and they still were calling it a 'summer' menu.


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