As explained in the other thread, my brother-in-law broke his ankle the other day and will be either on crutches or in a wheelchair (hopefully one of the ECVs) while we're in Disneyland in March.

How does that work with fast passes? Can we still use them if we're using the accessible entrances? Would we be better off using a fast pass and putting Dave up on his crutches to go through the regular fast pass line? (He should be pretty good on them by then.) Does this vary by ride?

Help. I am baffled!

As explained in the other thread, my brother-in-law broke his ankle the other day and will be either on crutches or in a wheelchair (hopefully one of the ECVs) while we're in Disneyland in March.

How does that work with fast passes? Can we still use them if we're using the accessible entrances? Would we be better off using a fast pass and putting Dave up on his crutches to go through the regular fast pass line? (He should be pretty good on them by then.) Does this vary by ride?

Help. I am baffled!Fastpasses can't be used in the Handicap lines. And he won't be allowed to use crutches in the FP line. If he is using the ECV, you will just need to wait in the HA line.

Is that also true of the accessible lines like in California Adventures?

Is that also true of the accessible lines like in California Adventures?No. I was speaking only of Disneyland. DCA is completely accessible, both regular and HA. There are no separate lines, other than on TOT you ask to go to the right and on CA Screaming, you will ask for the elevator.

Thanks so much! That will change our plans a bit - I am soooo used to the early morning fast pass mad dash - I'll have to wrap my brain around this!

I'm just running through all the FP lines in my head - is Buzz accessible? And how are the waits, generally, in the HA lines? Are we going to be totally screwed by not being able to get fast passes? I know Space and Pirates tend to be slower than the regular line and that's fine - we'll just ride them first thing. But how about Splash? I'd rather not ride it first thing in the morning but if we're looking at a seriously long wait in the HA line we'll probably go for it. I've never waited in the Standby line for Splash! Are the waits in the HA line comparable to the standby?

Thanks so much! That will change our plans a bit - I am soooo used to the early morning fast pass mad dash - I'll have to wrap my brain around this!

I'm just running through all the FP lines in my head - is Buzz accessible? And how are the waits, generally, in the HA lines? Are we going to be totally screwed by not being able to get fast passes? I know Space and Pirates tend to be slower than the regular line and that's fine - we'll just ride them first thing. But how about Splash? I'd rather not ride it first thing in the morning but if we're looking at a seriously long wait in the HA line we'll probably go for it. I've never waited in the Standby line for Splash! Are the waits in the HA line comparable to the standby?Buzz and Roger Rabbit are accessible, and the ones in Disneyland that he could go FP on. Splash really depends on how busy the day is. If it isn't real busy in the park, it may be a real short wait. We have seen both "Walk On" from the HA side, adn a 90 minute wait. (They only allow 2-3 HA groups on at one time. When one group comes off, they allow another group on.) POTC is almost ALWAYS longer than the standby wait. SM is also, however, there is a nice seating area and they send 2 groups down every 10 minutes. So, you can get a better time estimate by counting people and estimating. On both of these, it has been our experience, lines are MUCH shorter in the evening/night. Fantasyland HA lines are generally shorter, except for IASW, which again depends on the crowds for the day. Matterhorn, you are in the regular queue til the chalets, then you turn in thru the HA gate. BTMRR really varies. He MUST be able to walk out or the won't let him go. It may be one you want to skip. They will ask you "Can he load in under 30 seconds? If there is an emergency stop, can he walk down the stairs to exit?" He won't have the crutches.

Most rides will have a limit of how many HA groups can be on at once. POTC is 6, HM is 2, Splash is 2-3, most of the Fantasyland rides are 2. Most (not all) Fantasyland HAs are the exit gates. Look for the yellow lines, some CMs get mad (and even RUDE) if you cross them. An example, Peter Pan, you enter the exit, and go to the "corner". There is a yellow line there. I didn't know if the CM could see me, so I turned the corner, and was not so politely told "I didn't call you yet!" There is a mirror, so he could see me...

It's not as hard as it sounds. Here is a link (http://disneyland.disney.go.com/disneyland/en_US/help/gsDetail?name=MobilityDisabilityGSDetailPage) to the Disney site where you can download the Disabilities guide (right side of the page) which explains where teh HA entrances are.

Thank you sooooo much. That's awesome - I totally understand now.

The really, really good news is he went to the surgeon this morning and (a) doesn't need surgery (yay!) and (b) might be in a walking cast by then! If he can "walk" but still has a cast on are we allowed to use the regular line?

Thank you sooooo much. That's awesome - I totally understand now.

The really, really good news is he went to the surgeon this morning and (a) doesn't need surgery (yay!) and (b) might be in a walking cast by then! If he can "walk" but still has a cast on are we allowed to use the regular line?If a CM sees you, they will try to reroute you. But usually they don't notice that. More than likely, he will be in a boot (walking casts went out a few years back, boots are much better at being able to redistribute the place the weight is put.) It will take a few seconds longer to do some loads. Maybe MickeyDogMom will show up and tell more, as she has done Disney in both a mid calf and a knee length boot MANY times. Yes, if he is walking in a boot, he can then use the regular line and Fastpasses.

If he's in a knee high boot he's going to need to learn to angle his foot. I like to lead with the crippled foot because it's harder to move and then put my good foot on top of the bad one. Rides like California Screamin', splash, space, autopia, and more are all hard to get into with a screwed up foot. I've learned to get in and out so quick with messed up feet that I can get out before the rest of the crowd. If he's older and not as spry he may have a harder time convincing CMs to let him on the regular way.

Tell him to be thankful he's not in a WC or on crutches in Disneyland. You'll never realize how rude people are until you have these.

Thanks for the tips, MickeyDogMom - I'll suggest that to him. I'm hoping it'll just be a mid-calf boot, since it's his ankle that's broken. And fortunately, he's 29 and very athletic, so at least we have that going for him. We're definitely bringing the crutches for if he gets tired but I'm hoping we won't need them much.

I'm hoping it'll just be a mid-calf boot, since it's his ankle that's broken.
ROTFL! It is all up to the doc and (in MickeyDogMom's opinion) his "fetish". MDM last adventure was a broken TOE! and he put her in a knee boot just before our Disneyland trip in December. Half the time he puts her in a calf boot, the other half in a knee boot, we've never figured out the difference. (But her ankle usually got an ankle boot.) Escape Artist got a calf boot when he tore the ligaments in his ankle.

Thanks for the tips, MickeyDogMom - I'll suggest that to him. I'm hoping it'll just be a mid-calf boot, since it's his ankle that's broken. And fortunately, he's 29 and very athletic, so at least we have that going for him. We're definitely bringing the crutches for if he gets tired but I'm hoping we won't need them much.

I have done DL with a broken toe (I had a mid calf boot) and many knee problems. I highly reccomend if he has to still use the crutches, to get a wc/ecv. It is very tiring to use crutches all day and esp multiple days! A cane is a good thing to also think about (I am in my mid 20's, so nut much younger than your nephew)