OK, I'm bad, I know, but I need to know if anyone can tell me where the smoking areas are at the Yacht and Beach Club. Just found out you are not allowed to smoke on the balconies, and we are going to be there late Oct. Have a smoker in the group, and need to advise where he should go. :confused:

Based on some of the maps I saw of one of the moderate resorts, there are probably a few a little way away from the doors. There won't be any inside, so they'll have to make it to the outside, ground level, and then from there, it shouldn't be too far to go. (From some rooms, though, the Trek from the room to the outside is not a minor thing!)

If I were you, gravette, I'd just tell your person to go ahead with the balcony, being polite about picking up your own butts, being careful about wind blowing into another's balcony, etc. You're outside, and the chances are small that you'll in any way impact anyone else. I know some won't agree with this, but I think the opression against smokers has gone too far when you can't even smoke outside your hotel room.

I'd just tell your person to go ahead with the balcony, being polite about picking up your own butts, being careful about wind blowing into another's balcony, etc. You're outside, and the chances are small that you'll in any way impact anyone else.
I agree that chances are it may not impact anyone else, but if it is not allowed, and posted as such, doing so may result in a fine. I recall this being mentioned to us upon check in during our Aug trip.

I'm having a hard time believing that Disney is going around levying smoking fines. If anything, I'd think that they'd give you a warning first before fining. I don't smoke in room, so it really doesn't matter to me, other than just the principle of the thing.

If you search, you can find resort maps on-line that show the DSAs at every resort. Disney does consider you balcony part of your room, and they can fine you if someone reports you smoking. I wouldn't risk the $500 to try and smoke on your balcony.

If I were you, gravette, I'd just tell your person to go ahead with the balcony, being polite about picking up your own butts, being careful about wind blowing into another's balcony, etc. You're outside, and the chances are small that you'll in any way impact anyone else. I know some won't agree with this, but I think the opression against smokers has gone too far when you can't even smoke outside your hotel room.I disagree. I stayed at the Animal Kingdom Lodge with savannah view before the smoking policy changed. There were a few times during my stay that I wanted to sit on my balcony and watch the animals, but I couldn't because one of my neighbors was smoking.

There's no way you can be careful enough about where your smoke goes if you're on a balcony. People might want to have their sliding doors open for ventilation, and the smoke will be drawn right into their rooms.

There are smoking areas available, so please use those.

Wow, I had a feeling this would be a problem for our trip. My Mother smokes (I wish she would quit :() and I'm wondering where she can light up? I never had to pay attention to that because we are not smokers!

We are staying at CBR...this is going to be fun telling Mom to trek far away for a cig......:p

We are staying at CBR...this is going to be fun telling Mom to trek far away for a cig......:p
Actually, I think this is one of the areas that the moderates may be more appropriate for people, regardless of budget. Since the moderate rooms open to the outside, although they don't allow smoking on the balconies (which at the moderates, are essentially the walkways to the rooms), it's a lot 'quicker' to get away from the building to the smoking areas. I just saw the areas for one moderate, but it seemed like they were peppered all over.

If I were you, gravette, I'd just tell your person to go ahead with the balcony, being polite about picking up your own butts, being careful about wind blowing into another's balcony, etc. You're outside, and the chances are small that you'll in any way impact anyone else. I know some won't agree with this, but I think the opression against smokers has gone too far when you can't even smoke outside your hotel room.

I disagree with trying to smoke on the balcony. As someone who is extremely sensitive to smoke, even being on a balcony next to someone smoking a cigarette would mean I'd have to go inside. If you look at the map, there are quite a few designated smoking areas that should keep everyone happy! I have family members that smoke, and they've never had a problem finding a smoking area that was suitable without breaking the rules.

Actually, I think this is one of the areas that the moderates may be more appropriate for people, regardless of budget. Since the moderate rooms open to the outside, although they don't allow smoking on the balconies (which at the moderates, are essentially the walkways to the rooms), it's a lot 'quicker' to get away from the building to the smoking areas. I just saw the areas for one moderate, but it seemed like they were peppered all over.

Thanks Drince!!! This is helpful and I'm sure Mom will be pleased to hear the news!

Here are some links to help you out with finding the designated smoking areas at the parks and at the Beach Club:

http://www.allearsnet.com/tp/smoke.htm

http://www.allearsnet.com/acc/beachyachtmap.jpg

And here's the link showing smoking areas for CBR. It looks to me like there are enough designated areas to hopefully keep smokers and non-smokers happy!

http://www.allearsnet.com/acc/cbrmap.jpg

I disagree with trying to smoke on the balcony.

Yeah, I knew it wouldn't be a popular idea. I still feel that way, though.

Thanks WDW07!!! That map also helped! You guys are great! :fez:

Yeah, I knew it wouldn't be a popular idea. I still feel that way, though.

I do too! ;) I am not super sensitive to it though. I think if there is no-one out on their balcony near you, who cares? I also think that that if everyone in the US quit smoking, the government would freak out from loss of revenue on those cigarettes they tax so heavily, but that is another issue for another thread!

P.S. I am not a smoker, I just think that treating smokers as second class citizens is wrong.

Man, I did not realize how much help I would get with this! Thanks for the map........it really helps. We know where all the stops are in all the parks, but we are new to this room thing. Looks like we should be ok. I do like what I have read, and I agree. Second class citizens, who are only good for paying extra taxes. Thanks again to all my new Mouse friends!:D

With the new policy in place, I would not hesitate to blow the whistle on someone smoking on their balcony.

With the new policy in place, I would not hesitate to blow the whistle on someone smoking on their balcony.
What about blowing smoke at someone whistling on their balcony?

I'll be here all week.

What about blowing smoke at someone whistling on their balcony?


I've had a rubbish week and you just raised the first smile. Ta :)

With the new policy in place, I would not hesitate to blow the whistle on someone smoking on their balcony.


Would you preface your whistle-blowing with a request to the smoker to stop?

With the new policy in place, I would not hesitate to blow the whistle on someone smoking on their balcony.

Actually if I were to encounter that, I would just walk as close as I could to them, and start farting and burping in their face. [Well OK not really, but you get the picture. It's just plain rude.]

Here's the deal. If smoking *were* allowed on the balconies, I wouldn't complain. If there were a smoking area, I wouldn't complain about people smoking in those areas, either.

But if the hotel explicitly prohibits this behavior and someone decides to flout that policy, I have no problem giving it right back to them.

How would you feel if your daughter had asthma or your mom had emphysema and needed an oxygen tank, and the hotel guest next door kept lighting up and the smoke was bothering your family members and irritating their medical condition? It's one thing if smoking were allowed (if that were the case, I would ask for another room, or just close the patio doors when the folks were smoking), but if I am spending $200 a day to stay in a non-smoking hotel, I am not about to put up with that kind of behavior.

But you know what's worse? Telling people to go ahead and light up anyway. What if that asthmatic daughter were yours, Dan? Smoking may be a habit but it's one that can be curbed and controlled for most people, whether it be with the use of nicotine gum, patches, or restricting the number of cigarettes you smoke.

I think it's nearly impossible to tell who will be affected by smoking on a balcony, depending on the direction of the wind, sensitivity of those around, etc., AND it's obviously against the rules, so therefore, I don't see the point in trying it. There are plenty of comfortable, designated areas for smokers to light up without offending anyone or causing anyone health issues. Although this discussion makes me think that perhaps Disney has created more problems than it has solved with the new No Smoking Policy. Perhaps it would be a good idea to offer one or two hotels in each price category that still have some smoking optional rooms. That way everyone could be happy, and those of us that prefer to avoid the smoking situation could simply choose a hotel that does not allow it in any of the rooms or balconies.

But you know what's worse? Telling people to go ahead and light up anyway. What if that asthmatic daughter were yours, Dan?

First, I'm a very polite person. If I were smoking (which I don't) on my balcony and someone asked me to stop, I'd stop. I think our society is moving further into freak out mode in trying to prevent even the slightest possibility that someone might be inconvenienced or offended. The rule is in place at Disney, so you have plenty of ammo to deal with the smoker if he refuses to quit. I simply can't believe that smoking outside on a balcony is going to cause huge problems. And before anyone posts with their personal experiences, I'm sure the occasional problem does occur. But it can be dealt with in a civil manner with a knock on your neighbor's door (or a yell from your own balcony to the offender's).

And if the asthmatic daughter was mine, I'd bring her in off the balcony before trying to interfere with my neighbor's habits.

I almost forgot to add this in, when I was talking to res making our reservations this past August, I asked the res agent if they knew where exactly the smoking areas were at the Yacht Club,well, this not smoking on the balconies was news to her, and she told me she and her husband had just spent a few days at Saratoga Springs, and said they were both out their baclony smoking and saw lots and lots of butts on the patio. She said she had wondered why no one had cleaned them up, and said the no smoking on the balconies was news to her. That amazed me, here she works for them, and had no idea about the new policy. She also found the fines listed on her computer, and was even more surprised. I just have a problem with spending 300 a night, and being told you can not go outside and sit and relax with a cigarette IF you want to. Enough is enough, and I agree, its gone just a little too far. As I have said before, proabation did not work.................:geek: