Heroes

[oregontraveler]

Nice inside reference to have Hiro and friend at the Montecito in Las Vegas!

I thought that looked familiar :) BTW, new season starts on the 27th.

I hope I still have the episode where Claire goes to the party, the series is
kind of hard to get into but I like it.

[Bolivar]

NBC has a hit on their hands and because of that have decided to rebroadcast the three episodes that have already aired. If you need to catch up or just want to rewatch this, there will be a marathon on Sunday night.

[Alex S.]

Sunday night on NBC is Sunday Night Football so they may be just doing it as filler on the West Coast where the game is generally over around 8p.m. but on in prime time in the other time zones?

[Bolivar]

I don't know. It didn't ask me where I live:

http://www.nbc.com/Schedule/

Edit: I just noticed that it starts at 8:00 for both east and west coast. It starts at 7:00 for Cental and Mountain time zones.

[Alex S.]

Interesting, for some reason there is no Sunday Night Football this weekend. Wonder why.

[Rhiannon8404]

NBC has a hit on their hands and because of that have decided to rebroadcast the three episodes that have already aired. If you need to catch up or just want to rewatch this, there will be a marathon on Sunday night.
I was so glad about this because I saw episodes 1 and 2, but didn't see 3 or 4. Four was available on the website, but I didn't want to see it w/o seeing 3 first. Whew! I'm all caught up.

Ok, I'm really disturbed by the cheerleader crashing the quarterback and his car into the wall. If he's dead, she's a murderer. I really don't want her to have that hanging over her. Maybe Hiro will undo it?

[bellefan]

I was so glad about this because I saw episodes 1 and 2, but didn't see 3 or 4.

I was TOTALLY bummed because our NBC affiliate showed some lame World of Magic Awards for the first 2 hours and only showed the 3rd episode!!!!!!! The 4th episode is tonight so you're not too far behind.

[Alex S.]

Ok, I'm really disturbed by the cheerleader crashing the quarterback and his car into the wall. If he's dead, she's a murderer. I really don't want her to have that hanging over her. Maybe Hiro will undo it?

There's no guarantee that all of the "heroes" will turn out to be good guys.

[Rhiannon8404]

There's no guarantee that all of the "heroes" will turn out to be good guys.
That's true. After all, look at Nikki. She's got some power or alter-ego that seems to be up to no good. Of course it would be odd if both the girl Heroes turned out to be bad guys.

[Bolivar]

Throughout the marathon they were supposed to be showing scenes that weren't included in the original airing. I didn't watch so I don't know. I'm not sure I watched close enough the first time around that I would have been able to spot new stuff anyway.

[Rhiannon8404]

Throughout the marathon they were supposed to be showing scenes that weren't included in the original airing. I didn't watch so I don't know. I'm not sure I watched close enough the first time around that I would have been able to spot new stuff anyway.
The only episode I watched both first run and during the marathon was episode 2 and I didn't really notice anything new.

[BertDSweep]

Another excellent installment (10/23). Up, Up and Away!!!

Love how this show balances thrills with scares and a dose of humor thrown in (WAFFLES! YAY!). The Lost writers could learn a thing or two....

[Bill Catherall]

But very much like Lost, one hour per week just isn't enough time for this show. Last night's hour went so fast it was over before I was ready. The "To be continued..." showed up and I gasped. Is it next Monday yet?

I loved the flight. That very "simple" take-off with the sonic boom and ring of smoke (or vapor?) was way better than anything on Superman Returns. And that hilarious landing was a perfect compliment to the spectacular take-off.

[bradk]

again, hiro is a source of a lot of logistical problems here.

cute title. cute novelty act, having an english-speaking hiro from the future come back to set the warning in action. however, unless hiro takes a month-long course that teaches him fluent english, isn't this creating the tired-old anomaly where we already know the world is saved, otherwise how can the future hiro exists? so the past can only exist because the future exists? and how does hiro know where peter is at that exact moment in time?

and why is it that everyone knows they have their own powers, or that the powers exist, but are so reluctant to acknowledge it in others? or even accept the possibility of such a thing? makes NO sense.

so terminator. so back to the future 2.

[Alex S.]

That very "simple" take-off with the sonic boom and ring of smoke (or vapor?) was way better than anything on Superman Returns.
Vapor (here's (http://www-btev.fnal.gov/public/hep/detector/rich/sonicboom.jpg) a fighter jet captured at the moment of crossing the sound barrier).

I like the reticence most people are having towards their special powers. The speed with which most superheroes accept their powers and decide to use them for crimefighting or whatever always strikes me as false.

Initially denying it, assuming some kind of mental break, hiding it all strike me as more realistic.

Hiro's time travel does create all kinds of potential problems but that's always true. And while I think we can assume New York will be saved because the makers of the show are probably hoping for a multiple season run and if the five weeks to explosion don't happen this season that is probably a bit too slow in the progress departement.

But Hiro being alive in the future doesn't mean it didn't happen, just that Hiro wasn't killed in it.

[BertDSweep]

And his pal Ando has been helping him learn English phoenitically. Hiro seems like a quick study!

[Alex S.]

If anybody cares, Lani tells me that Hiro speaks perfect native Japanese while Ando is apparently not a native speaker of Japanese.

A Disney connection about Masi Oka (Hiro). Apparently he started work as a digital visual effects artist at ILM and worked on Dead Man's Chest. I'm guessing that will now be his last credit of that type.

[bradk]

it was clear he wasn't speaking phoenetically. he wasn't simply delivering a message, he was having a full conversation with peter. also, the title 'hiros' implies there's more than one. he definitely came from 'the future' more than five weeks out.

although theoretically, given what he's done so far, he could presumably stop time indefinitely long enough for him to completely learn english via one of those DIY kits, or even pull a groundhog day where he can learn english interactively and just keep setting the clock back since he seems to retain all knowledge of what happens between time twisting. he really could just continue to do what he's done and learn english at a month at a time, set the clock back and continue on.

and i'm not referring to self-denial. i'm talking about Mohinder going around asking people if they have special powers, but when peter explains to him that hiro controlled time, he was in disbelief instead of interested. or when hiro saw nathan fly and land and explains what he can do, nathan brushes him off (initially). he can certainly deny it to hiro to protect himself, but it should trigger something, especially with his run-ins between mohinder and peter.

i can understand nathan brushing off mohinder, but for mohinder to go 'okay, this guy can do this, that guy can do that, but that person? no way!'

maybe i'm missing stuff, but i'm just not getting it.

and i groaned at niki not wanting to be the woman she sees in the mirror while the other participant in the conversation totally accepts that as figurative instead of literal and thinks to themselves 'i know exactly what you mean.'

i guess when it comes to comic books, i prefer the new school, more in-depth approaches taken by things like Unbreakable and Smallville as opposed to the face value double entendre comedic elements of Spiderman.

[cstephens]

I'm liking the jelling of characters, but the whole "save the cheerleader, save the world", while funny, seems entirely too cheesy a call to a mission line for the kind of story that the creators seem to be going for.

[ekester]

If anybody cares, Lani tells me that Hiro speaks perfect native Japanese while Ando is apparently not a native speaker of Japanese.

A Disney connection about Masi Oka (Hiro). Apparently he started work as a digital visual effects artist at ILM and worked on Dead Man's Chest. I'm guessing that will now be his last credit of that type. I still remember him as Franklin on Scrubs.

[Bolivar]

So what did everyone think of last night's episode? I couldn't figure out while Evil Nikki was killing the card game folks, if Hiro couldn't use his powers because they wouldn't work, or if he was just scared and couldn't concentrate, or what exactly went on there. Nikki is looking more and more like a bad guy, it will be interesting to see how that plays out assuming she wasn't dead at the end there.

A friend of mine had an interesting theory. We have this whole time travel paradox thing with Hiro. If he goes back in time and changes things, then the future from which he came would be different and he wouldn't know to go back so he would not have gone back to change things, etc. And why go back and talk to Peter and tell Peter to tell stuff to others, why not visit each and every person -- including himself? Here is my friend's theory: that Hiro can go back in time, but because the past has already happened he can only go to a frozen past. That is why everything on the train was frozen. But, Peter has the ability to take on the powers of the heroes around him. When Hiro went back to the train, time was frozen, but he was near Peter who then picked up Hiro's abilities and joined Hiro in the frozen time. I really like that. It solves a lot of the time travel paradox issues.

[Alex S.]

Here is my friend's theory: that Hiro can go back in time, but because the past has already happened he can only go to a frozen past.

The only problem with that is that he has already gone into the past once without it being frozen.

Though maybe he can only go into a past that contains a version of himself when it is frozen.

[Bolivar]

When did he go to the past? I didn't watch the early episodes that closely, it was on while I did other things. I guess that was while he was still figuring out his powers?

[Alex S.]

When did he go to the past? I didn't watch the early episodes that closely, it was on while I did other things. I guess that was while he was still figuring out his powers?

In the first episode he transported himself to New York City from the Tokyo subway. In the second episode he learned he had not only transported himself to NYC but had transported himself 5 weeks into the future. When the nuclear explosion happened he quickly transported himself back to Japan, back to the the moment he had originally transported away from.

So that was a jump into the non-frozen past. He also then changed the future, by all appearances, because unless things go in anexpected direction, in four weeks Ando will not be in his Tokyo office to get all call from the police asking about Hiro.

[Bolivar]

When you start talking time travel, you get into all kinds of problems and paradoxes. We really can't say that things are this way or that way. But, I would not view someone going to the future and then returning to the present as having traveled back in time. To me it seems like their present is the set point and when they travel forward, they are out of their time and are just visiting. Return to their present is just that, returning not traveling back.