View Full Version : Passing a "just" 3 year old as under 3?
pdxmommy 10-29-2005, 06:36 PM Hi!
I know, I know, This is soo unethical, but I was curious... Has anyone tried passing a " just turned 3 year old" as under 3?
If so, did they have trouble at the gates?
My daughter will have just turned 3 days before we go and our travel agent said we should go for it as they never question, but I don't buy it...
Anybody tried this? I think I would feel guilty.
But I thought that I would ask.
Daughter is 40" too, but would be in a stroller at the gates...
Thanks, we are merely curious.
passthepixiedust 10-29-2005, 06:50 PM Yikes. Delete this immediately ! You'll get ripped to shreds in here......
stan4d_steph 10-29-2005, 06:52 PM Yikes. Delete this immediately ! You'll get ripped to shreds in here......So, you agree with doing this?
newhdplayer 10-29-2005, 07:06 PM Rules are rules. :rolleyes:
tink360 10-29-2005, 07:08 PM my guess is the CMs at the gate will take you at your word re: your daughter's age, unless she is unusually tall, verbal or mature looking for 2 + 1/2 (9/10ths?).
If it's going to stress you out before hand, or if you will feel guilty afterwards, then it might not be worth the money saved - just MHO.
I think I would feel guilty.
There's your answer.
DianeM 10-29-2005, 07:27 PM They aren't going to ask for a birth certificate, and I doubt they would make a fuss over a child that was so young. DL knows that this is a gambit that won't work very often (kids grow fast at that age, and won't pass for under 3 for long), so I'm betting they'd decide to let it ride even if they suspected. The real question is how you'd feel about it. I'm one of those people with an overly active conscience. I feel guilty doing things that most people don't even consider really wrong. If you're like that, I wouldn't do it. Disneyland isn't a place for guilt, it's a place for happiness. A few dollars in exchange for a clear conscience is pretty cheap, imo.
And no, I don't think it's wrong to ask the question. There is nothing in the world wrong with asking questions about hypothetical situations, and I trully hope that nobody attacks you for asking.
Thanks, we are merely curious.
passthepixiedust 10-29-2005, 10:33 PM No, actually, I do not agree with this. However, that being said, we all know that in the past when people have asked this question that instead of being told "I wouldn't do that" there have been attacks on their parenting abilities and morals. No offence intended..... I was just pointing out that this is somewhat of a touchy subject.
Rhiannon8404 10-29-2005, 10:48 PM This is soo unethical
I think I would feel guilty.
Well, all I can say is, you do what you think is right and in the words of Jiminy Cricket, "Let your conscience be you guide."
Crazy4DL 10-30-2005, 02:48 AM ..... I was just pointing out that this is somewhat of a touchy subject.
To be perfectly honest, the same thought crossed my mind when I read the OP. ;)
pdxmommy 10-30-2005, 08:29 AM Hi!
Thanks for the answers, it basically confirmed what I thought.
We were not really planning on doing this but my travel agent was soo convinced that it would work per her experience, I wanted to get feedback so I could inform her.
Thanks for not attacking our parenting style, I have a hard time dealing with judgements from other parents on parenting styles, it's so typical i our society though, so thanks.
We will order 3 tickets as originally planned. I just was curious and there is nothing wrong with asking. It is sad, however, that one cannot ask a question honestly without people reading into it and guilt tripping. I think that is why the world is so competitive and cut throat, so many cannot listen and muse on on idea without judging. sad. Especially from adults.
Thanks for the mostly non- judgemental answers.
Cheers.
Klutch 10-30-2005, 08:54 AM I have an aunt who has worked the gates at Disneyland for many years. She reports it's very common for people to try saving a few bucks by lying (and it is lying) about their kids' ages.
In fact, some folks go so far as cram very large kids into very small strollers in a feeble attempt to make them seem younger. While some do in fact get away with it, others do not.
In my opinion, you don't want to put yourself in the same category as these people.
pdxmommy 10-30-2005, 09:27 AM Hi!
As I stated earlier, I was merely asking as my travel agent was so convinced that We should do this and taht her clients do it all the time.
We were not planning on doing it,but I wanted to ask. I was curious, but now I know that even if any of you have thought about doing this, attempted, or have done, you will not come forward for fear of judgement.
I also knew that no matter how I asked, I would be judged and attacked as is typical as people. We live in a very judgemental society, not a lot of honesty, support and open discussion is happening here in the states.Sad.
We have 3 park hopper tickets for our family, as planned, I was just curios and there is nothing wrong with that.
As far as putting myself in the same category as people who cram older kids in strollers, I do not judge people for doing so, nor look down on people who do as I honestly feel that Disneyland charges way too much too early for kids and it is sad that so many kids will not experience Disneyland due to the cost, it is a place for ALL children, not just the wealthy, some children are not as fortunate as our children are. I am not for promoting lying , I just have compassion for all people and it braeks my heart that so many lesss fortunate will not experience this wonderful place. Disney needs to really look at that.
passthepixiedust 10-30-2005, 09:48 AM Off topic - Just regarding big kids in strollers.
My "older kid" almost five this last trip rode in a stroller (and yes he looked absolutely ridiculous! lol) Not because we were trying to fool anybody about anything, but because he HATES to walk. He complains the entire time he's walking any distance, wants everyone to sit down and rest every two minutes.... and when he's not complaining he's running off ! We got a lot of strange looks, let me tell you. lol. I'm hoping that by our May trip it won't be necessary but.......
ToursbabeC3po 10-30-2005, 11:38 AM Another thing to ponder is that you have to have a ticket to get a fastpass. If you go on a ride that has a height and age requirement (3 years of age ) and you do not have a fastpass for the child, they will not let you in the fastpass line. This happens at Star Tours all the time.
I was in line at the main gate the other day and the cast member asked the child there age and the child said "4" when the parent said "2" The parent grabbed the child and walked away all mad. I was busting up LOL.
Toursbabe
dsnyredhead 10-30-2005, 12:02 PM I was in line at the main gate the other day and the cast member asked the child there age and the child said "4" when the parent said "2" The parent grabbed the child and walked away all mad. I was busting up LOL.
Toursbabe
That's too funny. Yes, the honesty of children. Let's not make the child feel bad, just pay whatever it is that you are supposed to pay for admission.
cstephens 10-31-2005, 02:47 AM I do not judge people for doing so, nor look down on people who do as I honestly feel that Disneyland charges way too much too early for kids and it is sad that so many kids will not experience Disneyland due to the cost, it is a place for ALL children, not just the wealthy, some children are not as fortunate as our children are. I am not for promoting lying , I just have compassion for all people and it braeks my heart that so many lesss fortunate will not experience this wonderful place. Disney needs to really look at that.
I'm not a parent, so I've been told many times that my opinion doesn't count, but I'm giving it anyway. While I don't look down on or judge people who do this, I'm not sure it's the right thing to teach your children that if you don't agree with how much someone is charging for something, then it's basically ok to steal. I could certainly understand if it's a life thing - food, clothing, shelter - but as much as some love Disneyland, it's not essential to living. I know there are a lot of people who have to save for *years* to be able to afford to take their children to Disneyland. But Disneyland is indeed a luxury, something that some people might never be able to afford, but I still don't see that cheating them, even though they're a big company and some people think it's ok in that case, is the right thing to do.
ericles 10-31-2005, 06:00 AM I'm not a parent, so I've been told many times that my opinion doesn't count, but I'm giving it anyway. While I don't look down on or judge people who do this, I'm not sure it's the right thing to teach your children that if you don't agree with how much someone is charging for something, then it's basically ok to steal. I could certainly understand if it's a life thing - food, clothing, shelter - but as much as some love Disneyland, it's not essential to living. I know there are a lot of people who have to save for *years* to be able to afford to take their children to Disneyland. But Disneyland is indeed a luxury, something that some people might never be able to afford, but I still don't see that cheating them, even though they're a big company and some people think it's ok in that case, is the right thing to do.
I agree. The purpose of Disneyland and Disneyworld is not to provide for ALL the people (or kids) in the world. I can't afford to take my kids on vacation via private jet - but that doesn't mean that I think all private jets should cost as much as my Southwest fares so that we, too can take them.
Just my two cents:rolleyes:
pdxmommy 10-31-2005, 07:14 AM My father helped build DL in the 50's, back then it was meant to be for ALL children to enjoy, hence the low ticket prices, if you read Mouse Tales, you will see that after Walt Disney died, the prices starting going up and up to an insane level.
I never said that if someone diagrees with the price then they should teach their children it's o.k. to steal.
I am so done with this board.
Everyone misreads you, gets overly defensive and it seems quite" classed".
DL's purpose is not to serve ALL children?? WHAT??? A luxury? Sorry, but that is so wrong.
Whatever.
I am done here, I am terminating membership.
Not a lot of compassion for others here, only judgement.
ericles 10-31-2005, 08:08 AM ohhh - don't go away. No one wants that. You asked, and we responded, that's all.
Speaking for myself, I wouldn't want you to leave:crying:
adriennek 10-31-2005, 08:28 AM I'm opinionated but I think it's good to be strong in my convictions. :)
So that said, my 7 and 4-year olds had their first APs the first time they went to Disneyland after their third birthdays. For me it's just the right thing to do and I agree with cstephens and ericles.
Plus their photos are soooo cute on their APs. DLR is still using M's 3-y/o photo on his AP even though he's 7.
Adrienne
adriennek 10-31-2005, 08:33 AM Not a lot of compassion for others here, only judgement.
Isn't it ironic that by expressing our personal convictions, we're being judged as judgemental?
I've seen a lot of compassion on this board but I don't think that saying that my convictions aren't worth value is lack of compassion. Lack of compassion is: You don't deserve to go to Disneyland!
I see nothing wrong with encouraging someone to find an ethical way to visit Disneyland. We share money saving tips in the Lounge to help save up to go to Disneyland, tips for saving money on trips in the Disneyland forum, things that we don't think are worth "wasting" money on all over the place.
I guess it's just all a matter of perspective.
Adrienne
Crazy4DL 10-31-2005, 09:51 AM I've seen a lot of compassion on this board
I guess it's just all a matter of perspective.
Adrienne
Amen! :)
I have said it before, and I will say it again, I myself might actually sneak a just three year old into Disneyland (I am a heathen afterall :~D ) but I would not ask others what they thought or if they thought I could get away with it and then get upset if they gave me their opinions.
ETA: I LOVE your avatar Adrienne!
Rhiannon8404 10-31-2005, 10:00 AM I am so done with this board.
Everyone misreads you, gets overly defensive and it seems quite" classed".
........................
Whatever.
I am done here, I am terminating membership.
Not a lot of compassion for others here, only judgement.
Well, you certainly have a right to quit to board forever if you want. And if you have, you may not see my post. I read the whole thread closely...no one called you names, no one said you were being dishonest, no one said you were bad.
But, you did ask for other's opinions, and others gave them to you. It's very frustrating that often when someone asks for opinions and gets them, they accuse people of judging them.
kisroo 10-31-2005, 11:34 AM pdxmommy~Hopefully you haven't left. Like Adriennek said, MP has an abundance of information; some of which you may or may not agree with, but great info nonetheless. Especially for families visiting the parks.
I'm in the same boat as cstephens (not a parent, have given opinions about raising children, been told that I shouldn't...) and would like to offer this observation.
Parenting is hard. There are many, many times when as a parent you are faced with not only a difficult choice for yourself, but one that may serve as a huge teaching moment for your children. You do the best you can, follow what your heart tells you, ask for advice from those whom you respect and trust, and hope for the best.
It seems to me that you asked for opinions and you received them. I read some great replies in this thread~offered in a kind and honest manner.
Have a wonderful trip with your family!
~kisroo:)
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