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Disney Vault
10-26-2004, 02:27 PM
I'd bet money that there are cameras covering most every inch of the park. (if not for security, to cover liability if someone does something dumb).
They must be very well themed then because I have never spotted one but it makes sense for them to have them.

Hakuna Makarla
10-26-2004, 03:33 PM
I agree with adrianne and daddyB I also hit several people with my stroller. we went at the buisiest time( august) and we had never been so it was so overwhelming. Poeple were every where and so many just bowled me over. I hit a few, and did I ever apologize! I even got hit a few times but I gracefully accept it as being in a very buisy place and over crowded situations happen. I had never encountered crowding like I did in disneyland, in fact have never been any where that had so many people. There were more there then in my city!

I will be in stroller phase a while longer and will I am sure encounter being hit or hitting some one else when we go back and its buisy. I take it in stride and hope they have the love and understanding I do when I get hit to just forgive and forget.

splashmtngurl
10-26-2004, 03:45 PM
when i was at DL in may, we had a HUGE problem when we were waiting for a prime seating spot for fantasmic. We were all standing in line and a way behind us was this young woman with her mother and 2 little brothers. SHe kept ducking under the rope againts the wishes of the CM's trying to get in ahead of everyone else. My brothers and i were just chatting away when the rope was lifted and we were all filing in to the area. Where we were in line gave us the oppertunity to sit right up front, but what do you know, before we get to the area this lady shoves my two little brothers out of the way (she pushed one of them so hard he nearly fell) and then when my mom starts to say something about her behavior she says "we were in front of you the whole time". My mom then quite politley said "i'm sure if we all waited patiently in line, we could all fit into the spot and have great seating". The lady simply responds by cussing my mom out and then continuing to push other people out the way. When we sat down she was really only one row in front of us, she turned around and said in a smart alek sort of voice "see we all got great seating". By then my parents were mad and my dad simply said "yep, happiest place on earth". THe entire time we were waiting for the show to begin (probably a half hour) she made rude faces at my brothers and i. ughh some people can be so inconciderate!!!

I agree with adrienne though, it is nearly impossible to navigate a stroller through a large crowd, especcially when you are pre-occupied with what you will do next, getting to a destination, finding a family member or whatever. Sometimes getting hit happens, and the best thing you can do would be to ignore it.

Disneyland is a public place and you will always encounter rude people in any public place. CM's can only do so much to help, and believe me, most of them will do whatever they can to help you. Disneyland and DCA are notorius for bottlenecks and huge crowds and you can just about bet that people will ditch the manners under those circumstances.

Some of these stories are unbelieveable though, i had no idea people could be so rude, especially in a place like disneyland where there are alot of little people to witness your actions. I dont have kids (lol) and i never went to DL when i was little but if i did children of my own i would want DL to be a sort of, well, safer environment for them.

as for the "age group" that we arent targeting ;) i am a member of that age group (if i am guessing correctly) and i will admit that we tend to be rude. Now i have never delibratly bowled someone over or anything but i tend to be really arrogent and rude when i am frustrated, stressed or not happy with my situation. What us members of "the age group" really need, are good hard spankens! ;)

rentayenta
10-26-2004, 03:49 PM
Strollers are not always powered by mean, horrible thoughtless parents, and long ago I grew tired of generalizations. SOME people are rude with strollers. Not all. Yes, strollers are a part of life at Disneyland.

Ditto except for the part about my name being Adrienne :D

GrumpyUTboi
10-26-2004, 08:31 PM
Today as I pushed my stroller along I can't begin to tell you how many idiots cut in front of me then stopped, and all I could do is bump into them. I also love the dirty looks we got from having our two little ones with harnesses on them. It did keep them from running away.

On a side note, CM Letty asked me and my two youngest kids if we wanted to go up and steer the Mark Twain. That was really cool and I got a lot of neat pictures of being on top. As we were leaving we were the last ones off the boat and there were a lot of Japanese tourist waiting to get on board. They saw me and my two young ones get off the boat with me following behind my two kids with their "doggie leashes" and next thing I know cameras were flashing, video cameras were going and they were laughing and pointing. So I stopped, waved and bowed and thanked them for their attention. It was kind of fun. My three year old asked why they were taking pics of us and I had to explain how funny we looked.

SCUBAbe
10-26-2004, 08:55 PM
as far as the strollers go...some people do use them to push their way through crowds. My co-worker told me very matter of factly that "strollers are great for getting through crowds. I just slam into people and they move..." yeah, I was floored when she said that. Also, it's been my experience that strollers and ride on carts are notorious for stopping suddenly and blocking pathways. I have had to push a stroller through DL before and I NEVER hit anyone, even when they stopped in front of me. I'm not one to depend on strollers though. I think the last time I had my child in a stroller at the park she was about 3 and we had her out walking most of the day and used the stroller for her naps. Ok getting nostalgic now...the last time we rented a stroller we left it at the fantasyland skyway entrance, took the skyway to tomorrowland and decided to forgo our deposit because we didn't feel like going back to get it...LOL. Yeah, that was a long time ago. :)

averagedork
10-26-2004, 10:33 PM
Strollers are not always powered by mean, horrible thoughtless parents, and long ago I grew tired of generalizations. SOME people are rude with strollers. Not all. Yes, strollers are a part of life at Disneyland.

Adrienne


Sorry to generalize. While there are a lot of good stroller drivers, the bad ones ruin it for that group.

I'm a pre-school teacher, so I see strollers all the time in every make and model (we also have a ton of them in the dramatic play area of our class.), and even as recently as this morning I had a discussion about stroller ettiquette. A few mothers have said to me "It sounds bad, but until you have a kid you don't know what it's like. Leaving the stroller in a walkway isn't that offensive in the grand scheme. Being in the middle of the walkway seems fine.". Well this afternoon while a class was going out to play, holding the yarn, one then two kids dominoed and fell because of the stroller in the middle of the hall, laying there flat because a mother thought it wouldn't be "that bad". Two boo boo reports had to go out because it wasn't "that offensive". That's my two cents on the stroller issue.

SoCalSteven
10-26-2004, 10:35 PM
They must be very well themed then because I have never spotted one but it makes sense for them to have them.
Well, when you consider that cameras can be the size of a dime now (look at most cel-phones) I'd imagine that they can't be too hard to hide.

adriennek
10-27-2004, 08:37 AM
Just thought I'd mention: The group in my report was not a group of teens. I think it's interesting that people generalized that they were. They *were* young, but not teens.

Adrienne

disneyperson
10-27-2004, 12:31 PM
I've only been hit by strollers twice and both times the adult apologised. Just luck I guess. Maybe it's because I was very aware of other people when I was a stroller pusher myself, and it's carried over to my current single walker status. I can proudly say I never hit anyone with my stroller either.My biggest pet peeve with rudness however is with the people who shove through a line to catch up with someone already in it. The only polite thing to do is for the person to wait for the others to catch up, but I've only seen that happen twice in all my visits to DL. I remember once when my friend and daughter had fast passes to Indie and I was going to wait for them. Just after they went in ,a stranger offered me her fast pass so I went in too. I saw them as they were at the top of the stairs going into the loading area. I called for them to wait, which they did until I caught up to them. When we got to the loading zone the CM said she'd never seen anyone do that before and asked us where we'd like to sit in the car. I don't care what the reason is, don't cut in line! If you want to go together wait until the last person catches up. OK rant over now, whew!

DaddyB
10-27-2004, 11:51 PM
as far as the strollers go...some people do use them to push their way through crowds. I don't think anyone was saying differently. We've ALL seen it happen, or had it happen to us!

So much to see at Disneyland, and so hard to focus on where you are walking... I've seen adults walking forward with their heads practically 90 degrees left or right at the same time, and then it's like they suddenly notice their child walking in front of them doing the same thing, and yell at them to watch where they're going!

Melaniee
10-28-2004, 12:00 AM
Hi, My Name is Adrienne. I'm a mom of three, I have three strollers and I've used them all at Disneyland. I've hit people with my stroller but never intentionally and I can't ever remember hitting someone because they were in my way and I had to storm beyond me. I've hit people because they cut me off and I couldn't stop in time. I don't wish for anyone to be hit but I have to say that I do have to wonder how many times people have been hit because they cut someone off. Oh, and when I have hit someone, I apologize profusely.

Ditto, except I've not hit anyone...yet, just come close and that's thanks to the fact we go on the most off-peak days possible. ;)

It never ceases to amaze me when groups stop and totally block a walkway. if I have to stop, it's like driving a car, I PULL OVER. I'm not rude, but I'll pipe up with an "Excuse me!" when they do that.

Oh, and ahem...that group, I'll wager are 20-something DNKs. I was one once, and I KNEW it all about parenting. Parents, laugh with me, you know you did, too! :p

AlohaJulie
10-28-2004, 09:05 AM
Oh, and ahem...that group, I'll wager are 20-something DNKs. I was one once, and I KNEW it all about parenting. Parents, laugh with me, you know you did, too! :p

DNKs?

sediment
10-28-2004, 09:20 AM
Should be DINK -- "Double-Income, No Kids."

Melaniee
10-28-2004, 09:50 AM
Should be DINK -- "Double-Income, No Kids."

Oops! I should never post after midnight. Thanks for fixing that. Though I always think of it as Dual Income No Kids

DLRCM
11-14-2004, 02:04 PM
I found this old dying thread and felt like it needed to be revived. My question is: Do you think that guests are really ruder at DL than anywhere else, or is it just something we notice, seeing as it is the happiest place on earth and people are expected to be a certain way. (I have seen my fair share of RGs).

rentayenta
11-14-2004, 02:15 PM
I found this old dying thread and felt like it needed to be revived. My question is: Do you think that guests are really ruder at DL than anywhere else, or is it just something we notice, seeing as it is the happiest place on earth and people are expected to be a certain way. (I have seen my fair share of RGs).

Some people are schmucks no matter where they go, not just at DL. It's just more painful to see at DL because it's supposed to be the Happiest Place on Earth and Walmart (or wherever) is not. I think some folks put themselves under too much pressure to do it all and have the best time ever; anytime you add that kind of pressure it's bound to be a letdown. That doesn't excuse their bad behavior though.