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DBJ
05-25-2004, 02:56 PM
I know that it is a popular topic re: Disneyland and hopes/dreams of new attractions pop up as a thread periodically, so I thought of posting my take on what could be done with the USH property.

Now that GE/NBC owns the parks, and they are not exactly poor, they could fund some truly amazing attractions for USH and really elevate the place to greatness. Mummy's Revenge looks like it will be a fantastic start, so here is my humble opinion and open suggestion for improvements for USH.

My idea would be radically alter Backdraft. Essentially, the attraction tells no story, and in movie based theme park, that is a problem. So here is my premise, cross Backdraft with the Tower of Terror.

To elaborate. The set-up could remain similar, three stages, with the third being the explosive finale. But, the story would now change to engage the audience. My premise is that an arsonist is loose in the park and is determined to burn it down to the ground.

In pre-show area 1, the lights cut out and the audience hears footsteps above them as the fireman are looking for the "Arsonist". The power is restored, and the attraction host gets a frantic phone call, apologgizes to the audience for the interuption, and escorts the audience into the next room.

During pre-show two, the arsonist now busts through the ceiling, drops down onto floor, introduces himself, engages the attraction host in a bit of menancing banter. Our hero, a fireman, follows down through the hole in the ceiling. Arsonist escapes through the back. Fireman tells audience that everything is under control and then chases the Arsonist out the back door.

Then, in the third section, things get interesting. Guests sit into two tiered rows, with locking lap bars for their safety. After the host/ride attendant makes sure everyone is safe, the power cuts out again. Arsonist comes through, promises his captive audience a real show, and runs down the catwalk, down a firepole onto the main floor abour 20 ft down, and out through a side door.

The lights malfunction, steam pours out of the ceiling, seats shake. Guests see search lights come through the ceiling looking for the arsonist, but the next thing you hear is "it's too late!". The fire show begins much as before, then all of a sudden, the ceiling gives way and the Arsonist falls through (a dummy) and crashes through the floor in a fireball, out of site. Then, explosive climax occurs and instead of the floor dropping a few inches as it does now, the seats drop 30 ft down into a 10 ft pit (assuming the guests seats are 20 ft above the main floor, 10 ft. below ground).

Instead of it being over, guest see a fireball coming towards them (steam and red light), and the chairs are shot up 60 to 70 ft, breaking through the "ceiling" of the stage, then down, then back up to the 30 ft. elevation to exit the attraction.

Obviously, it poses some techincal challenges in having a launching/braking system with rows of seats, among other issues, but after seeing the stuff Universal Creative has pulled off in the past I'm sure they could solve those problems.

CoasterMatt
05-25-2004, 06:25 PM
As much as I really enjoy your idea for the Backdraft redo, the biggest single opponent to things like that is the Studio itself. Backdraft in it's current state is sometimes closed due to production going on in nearby stages, and in order to build Mummy, UC had to do all kinds of tests to PROVE to the studio that it wouldn't generate too much noise and interfere with production.

Tony Montana
05-25-2004, 07:23 PM
i think if USH can pull off another big ride like mummy in the coak soak area where they have a bunch of room to use the grassy hill then it would be incredible

and maybee they could add some other show instead of wild west... its not just a giant breakroom i think

DBJ
05-26-2004, 09:36 AM
That is true, it's hard to beleive that Backdraft shuts down periodically due to the noise. Is it really that loud? I see where it being so close to the studio would be an issue. How did they work around Mummy's Revenge? Yeah, definately would be a conflict of interests with the park vs. the studio.

I like the coke soak zone redo. Currently, kind of redudant considering Nick Blast is on the same level and could be replaced by any number of attractions. I always thought that that hill that separates the lower from the upper lot is a prime location for any number of attractions. Things like a log flume that snakes across the hill, or a rapids ride that goes down the hill, under the stairs, etc. Even something like a Flying coaster would work, considering there would be no need for a lift hill at the start of the attraction, and then let gravity do the rest.

In Japan, where space is even tighter, they've tucked in rides in malls, on top of building etc. Even Knott's is getting inspired in coaster placement, elevating the majority of Silver Bullet over the walkways.

I wonder if it would be possible to wrap a coaster around the area of the ampitheater. Maybe something to tie into Skrek? The noise issue would again be a problem, so it would likely have to be at least partially themed over the course of the ride for noise issues. Or have a station in the park, but then send the coaster out towards the 101 freeway over the parking lots?

KeithOfTerror
05-26-2004, 12:59 PM
I really like the Backdraft idea. That's very...well, very Universal-esque, I guess. I've always thought an Army of Darkness dark ride would be sweet. I actually had thought of something similar to the Revenge of the Mummy...about a month before I heard about that. Anyway, I'd like to see the Hulk coaster out on the hill by the coke soak, because every time I walk by there I think it's such a waste of space. Also, a new show in the Wild West Stunt area would be very cool, perhaps a show incorporating the classic monsters...

Even Knott's is getting inspired in coaster placement, elevating the majority of Silver Bullet over the walkways.


What's Silver Bullet? Last time I went, the only coasters at Knott's were montezuma, jaguar, Ghost rider, and Xcellerator.

DBJ
05-26-2004, 02:42 PM
Silver Bullet is Knott's new coaster that is currently under construction. It is an inverted coaster, like Batman at SFMM, but taller and a different layout. Knott's moved the Church to outside the park to make room for the layout. It's pretty clever in that they raised the entire ride above the walkways, and pretty close to Jaguar, so they could squeeze the ride in. It is scheduled to open this Christmas season.

Speaking of cost, it's approx. 13 million dollars, so it's not extremely expensive compared to the money Universal has dropped on Mummy (30 +), or Jurrassic Park (70-100).

I agree with adding the clone of the Incredible Hulk over by T2, great location for a station and start of a ride. Since it is also by the same company who designed SFMM's Scream, Batman, Riddler, IOA's DD & Hulk, the cost might actually be less than what they payed for the Mummy.

CoasterMatt
05-26-2004, 05:16 PM
All of Revenge of the Mummy's ride spine and support columns are filled with sand to help dampen noise.

I'd love to see them take out Blast Zone, and put in a copy of the Cat In The Hat dark ride, along with One Fish Two Fish - the BEST Dumbo Killer anywhere.

Tony Montana
05-26-2004, 08:39 PM
i think IF waterworld gets cancelled (unlikely)
they could use the space to make a rollercoaster that loads there and goes above citywalk and around the area of the behind the scenes... that would be tight..

walking on citywalk then you see a car full of screaming riders zoom over your head...
kind of like in vegas in NY NY

and a outdoor rollerocaster can work there because its not really colse to the movie studio...

DBJ
05-27-2004, 02:04 PM
That would be interesting, to see a roller coaster going over the roofs of some of the citywalk shops like the Manhattan Express at the NY NY hotel in Las Vegas.

duffman03
05-27-2004, 02:24 PM
With the ultra-rich Hollywood Hills neighbors hearing all of the associated screams and coaster sounds all day long? Not very likely, I wouldn't think. Even sound control devices like on Cal. Screamin' wouldn't do enough. Isn't that why it took them so long to get a coaster in the first place?


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