View Full Version : Pixar plan to expand is winning approval - SFGate, 05/13/04
Andrew 05-13-2004, 02:38 PM Pixar plan to expand is winning approval
Staff will urge council to OK development (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2004/05/13/BAGR76KB4O31.DTL) - SFGate, 05/14/04
Pixar Animation Studios Inc. wants to make its sprawling Emeryville headquarters even bigger, under a plan that appears headed toward approval despite opposition from community groups.
The hugely successful computer-animated film company started by Steve Jobs has a 20-year, $325 million development plan that could produce three new buildings with 544,000 square feet of space and a six-story, 1,801-space parking garage.
While some community activists say they want Pixar to contribute more money to housing and social programs, city officials will recommend that the council approve Pixar's proposal Tuesday.
sediment 05-13-2004, 03:06 PM Does PIXAR pay any kind of taxes -- property, income? Do the employees pay taxes? If so, the community activists should STFU. It could move someplace else.
Ghoulish Delight 05-13-2004, 03:12 PM Does PIXAR pay any kind of taxes -- property, income? Do the employees pay taxes? If so, the community activists should STFU. It could move someplace else.Not necessarily. In a small town like that, if one company becomes too large it can be devestating. Sure, they're paying taxes now, but what about when they run into hard time? It may happen, it may not. But if it does, what percentage of your population is now unemployed? And that includes not only Pixar employees, but employees of any supporting industries that Pixar employs for its operations. The activists haven't said, "hell no." They just want to further study the impact.
sediment 05-13-2004, 03:16 PM Don't forget the nearby lunch joints, who pay taxes on the income received from PIXAR's vicinity.
Mainly, these activists just want some attention -- and power.
Emeryville is a suburb of Oakland/Berkeley. Most of the employees likely live in another town.
Alex S. 05-13-2004, 08:04 PM Actually, they are tearing down one of the building that contains the main nearby lunch joint.
But yes, I doubt very many Pixar employees live within five miles of the Pixar campus.
Also, two of the three buildings will be within the area already fenced off within the existing campus so they won't have much physical impact on the area.
As for the activists, it should be noted that this particular part of Emeryville is almost completely industrial. However, right across the street are very low-income residential areas that receive absolutely no direct benefit from the presence of Pixar? Why? Because if you cross the street, you are no longer in Emeryville, you are in Oakland.
I doubt the Emeryville city council will spend too much time worrying about these people. After all, all the economic redevelopment that has happened within two blocks of the campus have been on the Emeryville side of San Pablo.
I'm not saying that Pixar should offer more concessions, just pointing out that the locals may not be getting the direct benefits you think, sediment.
Finally, if it is a word you don't get to say around here, sediment, it isn't a word you get to use in an an abbreviation. Please watch your language.
Disney Vault 05-13-2004, 08:22 PM I dont think pixar owes anything to those people who live around it. If they want to benefit from pixar then by some stock.
Alex S. 05-13-2004, 10:10 PM Yes, because that is what very poor people do when big corporations move in but don't employ any of the locals. Buy stock.
I don't think they necessarily should do anything (though I'm sure the city council does think that the people of Emeryville should benefit from Pixar, just not the people across the street), I was just pointing out that the people asking for stuff weren't necessarily already getting something (another than the new IHOP and artisan bakery that has since opened, on the Emeryville side of the street) as sediment seemed to feel.
sediment 05-14-2004, 02:21 PM As for the activists, it should be noted that this particular part of Emeryville is almost completely industrial. However, right across the street are very low-income residential areas that receive absolutely no direct benefit from the presence of Pixar? Why? Because if you cross the street, you are no longer in Emeryville, you are in Oakland.
I doubt the Emeryville city council will spend too much time worrying about these people. After all, all the economic redevelopment that has happened within two blocks of the campus have been on the Emeryville side of San Pablo.
I'm not saying that Pixar should offer more concessions, just pointing out that the locals may not be getting the direct benefits you think, sediment.
Finally, if it is a word you don't get to say around here, sediment, it isn't a word you get to use in an an abbreviation. Please watch your language.
I have a very clean mind. I have to actually think dirtily, and think very hard, to figure out what you're thinking about. I don't use words like that anywhere. And shame on you for thinking such words! I cannot edit my acronym, though. (Been too long, logged off then on. Something.) You can if you wish.
So, which "locals" are these? Are these "locals" in Oakland or "locals" in Emeryville? Probably some of them outide agitators from Berkeley.
More tax revenue means the City Council can decide to put up low-income housing. It's not PIXAR's job to do that.
Isn't all of Emeryville industrial? That's what I remember from a Thomas-Guide viewpoint.
Isn't all of Emeryville industrial? That's what I remember from a Thomas-Guide viewpoint.No. There are a few condos and townhouses on Shellmound, and I believe there are smaller houses tucked into corners here and there. Pixar still isn't the biggest employer in Emeryville, by the way. I believe there are some bigger companies there (not counting my employer, which pulled stakes and left E'ville two years ago), including Chiron and Bayer.
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