Is anyone else disturbed by the many John (http://www.suntimes.com/output/steyn/cst-edt-steyn04.html)Kerry (http://www.petitiononline.com/jkerry/petition.html) advertisements suddenly popping up on the banners of Mouse Pad? Personally, I'm used to seeing lies up there (You're #2837592 visitor today, you've won a prize!), so Kerry Campaign ads fit...but it's still creepy. :eek:

You might not know this, but he IS running for president.

Perhaps if there were smiles added to the insults, this post would be more easy to swallow.

I personally couldn't care less about either Bush or Kerry, and both of them can run ads wherever they want, ESPECIALLY if the money is going to our beloved MP.

I don't even notice these ads any longer. I'm glad someone does, because I believe they help pay the MP bills.

Wow, everyone jumped on that post fast. I agree, I'm glad that the money is being put to good use. But it still creeps me out.

I don't even notice these ads any longer. I'm glad someone does, because I believe they help pay the MP bills.

Same here. My brain is now programmed to ignore all web ads.

And yet, your little ad at the bottom of your postings doesn't generate any money at all, does it? ;)

I personally think that Kerry is a great man, and he will make a great president, and the lies against him will prove that Bush is just using anything he can get his hands on to bash him.

(chanting) Go Kerry! Go Kerry! Go Kerry!

bye bye bush bye bye bush bye bye bush [/chanting]

Perhaps if there were smiles added to the insults, this post would be more easy to swallow.

In defense of Pirate girl, I would dare say many an insult is thrown around about Bush on these boards without smilies. While I am certain that the large majority of MPers don't read the ads, I am certain that if a Bush ad or two were to appear on MP there would be quite the uproar.

the lies against him will prove that Bush is just using anything he can get his hands on to bash him.

I'm certain Kerry isn't trying to distort anything to bash Bush. No....I'm sure that couldn't be happening..... :rolleyes:

I'm certain Kerry isn't trying to distort anything to bash Bush. No....I'm sure that couldn't be happening..... :rolleyes:

Nah, Kerry doesn't have to distort anything too much. Bush seems to be doing a great job of playing a fool all by himself. :rolleyes:

Is anyone else disturbed <snip>...but it's still creepy. :eek:But it still creeps me out.What I can't figure out is why is the ad "creepy" or "disturbing"? I understand that you support Bush, and you have every right to. But why does that make the Kerry ads creepy and disturbing?

What ever happened to "my candidate is the best because X" instead of "the other candidate sucks because he/she lies, is an idiot, etc."? ALL sides do it and THAT is disturbing.

Nah, Kerry doesn't have to distort anything too much. Bush seems to be doing a great job of playing a fool all by himself. :rolleyes:

And Kerry does such a great job of taking each side of every issue it's hard to find something to criticize... :rolleyes:

And Kerry does such a great job of taking each side of every issue it's hard to find something to criticize... :rolleyes:

I suggest you read the many flip-flops Bush has made, posted by 'bushlies' on the website that Pirate Girl has provided on her post.

Bush lies (http://avoidingevil.com/blog/archives/001362.htm)

Bush is an idiot
Kerry is an idiot

Bush is a good president
Kerry could be a good president

Lets focus on the latter pairing

Thanks, Kevy Baby, your post was wise, and I'll use that sentiment:

I think Kerry could be a good president. I am interested in his stance on free trade, as it is closest to mine. I would like to see him improve foreign affairs and relations, as I am uncomfortable with the country as it stands now. If I hadn't been pavlov-dogged into ignoring all of the MP ad space, I would have been excited to see that Kerry's team has chosen to advertise here.

I don't mind the Kerry ad, but I was a little taken back at how Anti-Bush it was, as opposed to pro-Kerry. Not that a little banner on Mouseplanet is going to change anybodies vote (no offense MP!), but I thought that it was over the top. Of course, I would wager to say a majority of Disney fans lean to the left.

I was more offended, byt he Kellogg's banner right after New Years that advocated the ridiculous 14 day Special K diet. It really made women out to be morons.

I'm no fan of Bush (any more), but the idea of handing over our economy to anyone who campaigns on a platform of higher taxes by promising to "make the rich pay their fair share" is a scary concept. Either he doesn't realize the great disparity in tax payments, or he is willfully ignorant. Either way, all I can say is, our economy is just barely getting back on its feet as it is and I don't want anything upsetting that balance.

I generally find that democrats shoot themselves in the foot on many issues. They pass laws which seem good on the surface, and are therefore popular with the voting public, but which actually work against what they say their goals are. Want to close the gap between the rich and the poor? Stop making it so difficult to be rich! The more "make the rich pay their fair share" policies you put into place, the more barriers to entry there are for people trying to rise up to that level. All that does is create and exclusive market for higher-end moneymaking opportunities, strongly favoring those who already have money. For example, the "rich" can afford good accountants to help them arrange their finances in such a way as to minimize the taxes they have to pay (they still pay an outlandishly large amount, but I digress). Contrast this with the up-and-coming, who might have a high income, but due to lack of information or money for the right accountant, they don't do anything to cut back on how much tax they have to pay, so they end up paying full income tax on the amount they earn. This makes it harder for them to ever get to those upper echelons. It should be EASIER to reduce your taxes, especially in ways which encourage investment b/c that's good for the economy (get ppl to put their money back in the system to fuel growth). I could go on a tirade about the popularity of raising the minimum wage, but that's a less black-and-white issue (incidentally, raising the minimum wage helps skilled workers more than unskilled... the people who would be earning said minimum wage)

In defense of Pirate girl, I would dare say many an insult is thrown around about Bush on these boards without smilies. In my defense, what "disturbed" me about the original post was the concept that an ad supporting this man was "creepy" and "disturbing". I mean, I find certain political ideas, people, places, and products creepy and disturbing, but I don't tell the people that like that stuff TO THEIR FACE. It's insulting.

We have to put up with ads on the 'net, or the sites aren't free for us. And you have to put up with people advertising stuff you don't want.

"I don't like to take surveys! I don't want to hit the evil kangaroo! I don't want to join a dating service! I'M OFFENDED!!!!!"

Life. Deal with it.

I suggest you read the many flip-flops Bush has made

I am, unfortunately, aware of them. I am under no illusion that Bush is the second coming. I dislike many of his policies, some of which have been signed into law - campaign finance reform, his pseudo-amnesty for illegals, his medicare perscription plan, allowing Ted Kennedy to write the education bill....I could go on, but the point is made. I have no reason to believe that these things would be any different under Kerry. There are two issues, however, that are clearly different between the two, and those happen to be the most important issues to me - taxes and the war on terror.

Regarding taxes - Kerry has been and will be for higher taxes - from his recently proposed 50 cent gas tax hike to his votes for raising taxes (the exact number f them is unclear - Bush ads say 350 times, but some of those are votes on almost the same bill with slight modifications from committees). He has said that he will only raise taxes on those making over 200K a year, but that is disingenuous at best - the current Bush tax cuts will expire if not made permanent. Kerry will not make them permanent, and therefore my taxes will be higher than they are now. Morigoon correctly states that the top income earners already pay more than their fair share.

Regarding the war on terror - Kerry has said that he is first and foremost an "internationalist". Kerry has stated that he wants more UN involvement in the foreign policy decisions of the US. The priority of a US president should be what is in the best interests of the US, and the UN clearly does not have the best interests of the US at heart. The three countries that led the way in opposition to our actions in Iraq had their own interests at heart, not ours. As ABC news has reported, leaders and government officials in France and Germany, and even Kofi Annan's son, were skimming billions of dollars off of the Iraq oil-for-food program. Russia's opposition came down to our refusal to garuntee them the payments of the billions of dollars Iraq owed them. They look out for their interests, and we should look out for ours. Kerry continues to tout the world opposition to our war in Iraq, but 51 countries were with us, more than the first Gulf War. A brief history - we needed no permission from the UN to go into Iraq. They repeatedly violated terms of the cease fire from the first gulf war.

In the mid 90s Kerry put forth the Kerry amendment, which was added to some other spending bill, which would have cut 6 billion from our intelligence budget. Spin it all you want, but the world climate then and now does not support that as a good decision.

In the late 90s (98, I believe), Kerry was telling us what a horrible threat Saddam was. Kerry voted to go into Iraq. He wrote a portion of the Patriot Act, praisied it at the signing as what America needed to combat terrorism, and now criticizes it as Orwellian. He was even against our bombing of Lybia in the 80s, when they were a terror sponsor and killing Americans throughout Europe.

Say what you will about our current foreign policy and war on terror, but I am in the steadfastly in the Bush camp. Al Qaida is not the threat it once was - while bin Laden is alive, he is reduced to hiding in caves and sending out tapes calling for a truce with Europe. Afghanistan is no longer ruled by terrorists. Yemen has expelled terrorists. Lybia has denounced terrorism and Qadaffi has opened his country to inspecters and is showing them all he has. Indonesia is combatting them rather than capitulating. In Iraq, 25 million peopleno longer live under Saddam. There are presently difficulties and there will continue to be, but parents can send their children to school and enjoy a far better infrastructure than in pre-war Iraq. Terrorists are going into Iraq to fight and are being killed rather than being able to focus on more attacks here, because they know that if a stable democracy is established in Iraq their days are numbered. Criticize and debate, but I believe the world is a much better place than before and that the US is much safer than before. The terrorists are fighting for their very existence rather than fighting to achieve their goals.

I love political debate. No other country has anything even close to our first amendment (although the FCC is doing their best to attck it - but that's another thread).

I think this thread has outlived it place in Admin and is ready for the Lounge.

I second Kevy Baby's motion - this is not really a thread about ads, but about politics.

Personally, I thought the Kerry ad was stupid simply because of it's content. All it said was "For the price of a night out, you can change your country, Vote Kerry". What does that say about the candidate? Nothing. What does it say about his ideals? Nothing.

What does the ad really mean? It means that he wants me to not have fun, and just give my money to him instead. Now that is a powerful message! :rolleyes:

Life. Deal with it.Love that, CP. :fez:

And yet, your little ad at the bottom of your postings doesn't generate any money at all, does it? ;)

Hey, I wasn't the one who brought up the money factor, I was just saying the ads creeped me out! No, the ad at in my signature is just me showing my support of President Bush!

What I can't figure out is why is the ad "creepy" or "disturbing"? I understand that you support Bush, and you have every right to. But why does that make the Kerry ads creepy and disturbing?

I was just say, that is my personal responce to it. Actually, it's my personal responce to anything that mentions Kerry.

What ever happened to "my candidate is the best because X" instead of "the other candidate sucks because he/she lies, is an idiot, etc."? ALL sides do it and THAT is disturbing.

I totally agree! We end up electing leaders based on who is the lesser evil because the facts are never presented straight. Actually, to go off on a random tangent, I am all for making campaign commercials illegal and only televising official debates because too many people just vote based on Candidate X's TV commercial.