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HB Tigger Fan
03-15-2004, 10:49 AM
I am debating wether or not to start using Outlook Express for my email instead of my ISPs client. I have Earthlink and I am happy with their client. What is the big deal abotu Outlook or Outlook Express?

Ghoulish Delight
03-15-2004, 11:23 AM
By 'email client,' do you mean a web-based thing, or a separate client on your computer?

Andrew
03-15-2004, 11:50 AM
HBTF, unless things have changed since the last time I VNCd into your machine, your Earthlink-supplied email client is Outlook Express; Earthlink just added their own branding on top. Keep OE updated with Windows Update (http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/) and you'll get all the new and important features and security updates.

HB Tigger Fan
03-15-2004, 11:53 AM
Oooo Fancy! Thanks Andrew!

I was mostly asking because I had to take some tests for another position I applied for and they were using Outlook, and asked me to do some things (send business cards) that I had no idea what they were talking about. Maybe thats regular Outlook.

GD, it's not web based, its just on my computer.

Thanks again!

Andrew
03-15-2004, 12:02 PM
Originally posted by HB Tigger Fan
Maybe thats regular Outlook. There is a difference (a pretty substantial (http://office.microsoft.com/assistance/preview.aspx?AssetID=HA010565781033&CTT=6&Origin=EC010963431033) one) between Outlook Express (http://www.microsoft.com/windows/oe/), the free email client included with Internet Explorer, and Outlook (http://office.microsoft.com/home/office.aspx?assetid=FX01085793&CTT=6&Origin=EC010963431033), the Exchange client bundled with Microsoft Office.

hbquikcomjamesl
03-16-2004, 12:57 AM
Hmm. If I had a choice between Microsloth DontLook and the web-mail client my ISP provides, I'd gladly stick with the web-mail. If I had a choice between DontLook and the web-mail client I use for my work email, I'd take the web-mail client. If I had a choice between DontLook and the really clunky, really unreliable web-mail client my ISP used to use, I'd go with the clunky unreliable web-mail.

If it were either DontLook or PINE, I'd take PINE. Heck, I'd gladly take ELM before I'd use DontLook.

Security updates to DontLook? Give me a break! Microsloth DontLook doesn't just HAVE security holes; it IS a security hole, especially if it's running under Win-Doze. Applying security updates to something like that is sort of like offering a Band-Aid to somebody who's been shot with a bazooka.

Also, for the record, I strongly disapprove of the very idea of using an ISP that supplies proprietary software. I think I'll stick with Quik Internet, where I can use my own. (It doesn't exactly hurt that, if necessary, I can call the local Quik franchise, and talk directly to the head geek.)

For the record, on my Macintosh, I use the email client that comes in Netscape 4.7, and on any other machine, since I don't want to download any messages, I use web-mail.

Moonliner
03-16-2004, 05:20 AM
Originally posted by hbquikcomjamesl
Security updates to DontLook? Give me a break! Microsloth DontLook doesn't just HAVE security holes; it IS a security hole, especially if it's running under Win-Doze.

I'm just curious, can you site some specific examples of these "security holes"?

I know that since many people use Outlook and/or Exchange there are more attempts on them, but other than some people opening attachments with virus's (which is more of a social issue than technical) I've not noticed any real security issues.

MonorailMan
03-16-2004, 07:40 AM
I really like the full Outlook. Not only do when I check all of my e-mail, it syncs to my Windows Mobile Device, but that it allows full management of my schooling life. I would die, if I didn't have Outlook 2003. :)

Outlook is way more than just e-mail. :)

justagrrl
03-16-2004, 08:33 AM
I use Eudora (by Qualcom) and really like it. They have a free verison (supported by a small ad that's easily ignorable) or a pay version that's ad free... or a pared down basic version that's free and free of ads.

I use it in combination with Mail Washer (which uses Spamcop and other filters) to filter through the hundreds of spams I get daily. (yes - I'm up to nearly 200 a day now - but I have a web site with my email addy on it and I think I get most of it from that, unfortunately.)

HB Tigger Fan
03-16-2004, 12:33 PM
Thanks for the clairifaction Andrew. It was probably Outlook they had. I have MS Office and it has Outlook on it. I was thinking of using that instead of what I have, if I could use my current email address. I do not have a MSN Passport (for my own reasons)

hbquickcomjames, I wasn't asking for people to bash microsoft or outlook, I was asking what the difference between the two were, and what the big deal about outlook was. The simple fact that you call products names other than their own just makes me skim the first line and skip your posts. If I want someone to bash Microsoft or its products you'll be the first person I go to. I promise. :|

MM, you and your PDA/computer syncs are like me and my paper daytimer ;)

Not Afraid
03-16-2004, 01:32 PM
I use Outlook (NOT Express) at both home and work. In both situations I have multiple email accounts directed to one client. I have folders for each account and the mail gets nicely sorted. For me, having 4 mail accounts at work and 3 at home, Outlook is a wonderful client.

HB Tigger Fan
03-16-2004, 09:31 PM
You can have multiple accounts coming in on one client? Thats it, I am switching! I have way to many accounts to keep track of.

YAY for Outlook!


As a side, I couldn't find my dayrunner at school and I about had a heart attack. Thankfully I remembered I left it at home.

HB Tigger Fan
03-16-2004, 10:02 PM
Ok, so as you can see from my above post I decided to use outlook.

I got seperate folders set up for each email, and I'm 99% sure I have the filters set up correctly. The big question, is how do I import my current address book? I swear I just saw something about it but I can't find it anymore. Help?

Not Afraid
03-16-2004, 10:06 PM
In Outlook, go to Contacts: File: Import.


You'll need to know where your other contacts are stored to find them and import them.

justagrrl
03-17-2004, 07:02 AM
I guess it's too late now - but just wanted to point out that Eudora also lets you check multiple accounts. :)

HB Tigger Fan
03-17-2004, 09:25 AM
Sigh. My current address book isn't saved on my hard drive.

What is the difference between a Contacts list and an address book? I have the option to make either.

Thank you :)

stan4d_steph
03-17-2004, 09:45 AM
A contacts list allows you to put more detail in for individual entries. Also, you can send and receive electronic business cards that are saved to the contacts list. An address book is mainly a way to store email address, but you can put more information in an entry than that. In addition when you click on your Contacts folder in Outlook it looks like an electronic rolodex.

Not Afraid
03-17-2004, 09:52 AM
Exactly, Steph. I have all my contacts sorted by group ie: Friends, Family, Celebrity, Farmers, Medical, etc. Makes it MUCH easier when I need to find someone in this huge list.

Moonliner
03-17-2004, 09:55 AM
Originally posted by Not Afraid
Celebrity

Ohh you shameless name dropper you!

HB Tigger Fan
03-17-2004, 10:05 AM
Originally posted by Not Afraid
[B]Celebrity[B]


So you DID get Jeffs information ;)

Ok, I am going to do a contact list. I already started one.

Yay outlook!

sigh...maybe someday I too will have a celebrity list.........

Mark Goldhaber
03-17-2004, 08:29 PM
See, I use the Netscape Mail client in Netscape 7.1. I have four mail accounts in here, built-in spam filtering with heuristics and learning algorithms, and NOBODY WRITES VIRUSES FOR NETSCAPE. Oh, and Netscape also includes a built-in configurable pop-up blocker. :D

Oh, at work we use Lotus Notes/Domino, so that doesn't really enter into this discussion, except that nobody writes viruses targeted at it, either.

cemeinke
03-17-2004, 08:45 PM
Originally posted by Mark Goldhaber
Oh, at work we use Lotus Notes/Domino, so that doesn't really enter into this discussion, except that nobody writes viruses targeted at it, either.

Heck, nobody willingly writes emails in it either - yuck
(I'm stuck with it at work too:( )

Not Afraid
03-17-2004, 08:52 PM
Originally posted by HB Tigger Fan
So you DID get Jeffs information ;)

I spent about 5 minutes thinking you were refering to FEJ. I'm think "Of course I have Fej's number, I talk to him every day!"

OK. That was dumb.:geek:


Oh, and Celebrity is an events company I work for on occasion - like during oscar parties.;)

justagrrl
03-18-2004, 03:27 PM
Okay - so who's going to hack NA's computer in a search for Johnny Depp's phone number? :~D ;)


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