Why didnt Disney make movies like the ones pixar made first. They used the technology first but somehow they never thought of using it to make a whole movie. I heard they used it for a scene in Beauty and the Beast. I think it was the ball room scene or something. Then they could have been the kings of computer generated movies too.

http://imdb.com/title/tt0130623/

Ohhh, so was that movie not very successful or something? Why didnt they make anymore? Or is it again just because the Disney comp. forgot that it is the story that makes a great movie and not the graphics.

Disney has opened an entire CGI studio. Their first film will be Chicken Little (2005) as well as Rapunzel Unbraided (2007).

thanks for the info

Originally posted by Disneys Biggest Fan
Ohhh, so was that movie not very successful or something? Um, yeah.

As everyone has said a million times (and you basically said yourself), Pixar is not successful because the graphics are good. Pixar is successful because the WRITING is good. So who cares what technology they use, 2D or 3D? If the writing still sucks then there's no reason for me to beg them to do computer animation.

"Dinosaur" made $137,748,063 in the year 2000. I think some ways to think about why Disney didn't follow up with "Dinosaur" with more CGI-only movies, and these are only guessing on my part: If someone is doing so well at what they do, making money hand over fist and each thing they do is better and more money making than the one before, and you were in partnerchip with that someone, how hard would you work in developing your own (whatever it is), or would you be tempted to coast and take the easy money from your share of the partnership? Think Disney and their partner Pixar's movies being on such a roll since 1995's "Toy Story". Another speculation: "Shrek" and "Ice Age" from competing studios were both highly successful hit movies, and both were CGI. Another reason: The end of the relationship with Pixar got Disney to wake up and smell coffee and realize the day of full length CGI movies is here, and it's time to join in other than dabbling with it. Another speculation: Cost. To put the work and time and effort and technology support into CGI-only movies is very expensive, and Disney has been in austerity mode in recent years. Another reason: Dinosaur was the first modern era Disney feature length animated film to be rated PG after a long and successful line of G-rated animate feature films. Parents saw the PG rating and wondered what was going on. When you eliminate the kiddie admission and the rest of the family goes instead you are eliminating some potential revenues. Anotehr reason: The Disney movie going public keeps expecting another huge hit like "Lion King". Sure $137+ million is definitely in the hit movie category, but "Lion King" and "Beauty and the "Beast" and "Aladdin" and "The Little Mermaid" it ain't. Another speculation: With budget cuts and all it's my understanding that Feature Animation has been under different leadership since 1994-1995 or so, various people heading the division. While good films were made in the years since then, it might be that differering division heads have differing world views on what priorities and stories and techniques of presentation to pursue.

If you want to see a blend of CGI and traditional 2-D animation from Disney, run, don't walk, to see "Destino"! I just got back from seeing it today and words can't express my admiration for this movie. It's nominated for an Oscar and if you watch the Oscars Sunday night look for Best Animated Short Film. "Destino" was started by Walt Disney and the surrealist artist Salvadore Dali, but finished by Disney Feature Animation, the late John Hench and Roy Disney (yep, the "SaveDisney.com" Roy Disney). This shows off the Disney animation department at its best. Very superb! Disney is capable of great heights in 2-D and 3-D CGI. "Destino" is playing in only one theatre where I live, an art house that is also playing "Triplets of Bellville". Look for it and see it quick, 'cause it might go away soon, or wait to hear of it coming to home video someday (a WWW site specializing in Disney home videos is UltimateDisney.com and they would know when it came onto Disney home video).

The box office figure I got came from a movie site that reports box office tallies, Box Office Mojo.com.

All the above (except for raving about "Destino" and the box office figure for "Dinosaur") is pure speculation on my part and others are invited to set me straight, fill in blanks, comment any way they wish... I'm open to the discussion and realize I might need corrections, and that's fine w/me. :)

Originally posted by CarolKoster
"Dinosaur" made $137,748,063 in the year 2000. According to imdb.com, it cost $127,500,000 to make. Not a good return at all.

That is why they didn't make more of these.

Oh, and Carol, please break your posts up into smaller paragraphs - it can be hard to read a large block of text like that. Thanks! :)

On another note - I couldn't even find theaters for Destino anywhere....is it out of the theaters around here?

Looks like I should have jumped on it while I could. :(

Cadaverous: I'm sorry about the paragraph breaks, I'll do better next time, I promise.

Look for theatres playing "Triplets of Belleville", and then call the theatre to inquire whether "Destino" is playing as a short feature in front of it. I live in the New Orleans area. Two theatres for about a week showed "Triplets" but only one had "Destino" in front of it, the art house of the two. Now a couple of weeks later "Triplets" is still playing at the art house with "Destino" in front of it and it's gone now from the suburban multiplex. So it's in and out really quickly in theatres, or may be playing at an art house.

Back to the topic: Over on Box Office Mojo's Speakeasy movie discussion forum they are actively talking about "Dinosaur" right now, just thought people might be interested in what non-Disney movie fans thought of it. Go to www.boxofficemojo.com , then click in the left menu bar "Forums", then choose "The Speakeasy", and then scroll the first or second or past pages for the "Walt Disney's Dinosaur" thread. Here's a link, but in case the link doesn't work those were the directions to find the thread.:

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/forums/viewtopic.htm?t=34014