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merlinjones
12-01-2003, 05:50 PM
Posters at laughingplace are suggesting a boycott of Disney products to support Roy and Stanley!

How about it? Can we stop buying any Disney product until Michael agrees to resign?

No parks
No Disney Stores
No Kmart
No Happy Meals
No Xmas presents
No Haunted Mansion
No Bad Santa
No Brother Bear
No videos
No video rentals
No music
No cable
No ice shows
No ESPN Zone
No ABC
No books or comics
No toys
No Princess Teas
No hotels or resorts or golf courses
No Pirates of the Caribbean tomorrow
No Lion King or Sleeping Beauty or Finding Nemo

What do you say???
:confused: :mad: :~D :fez:

MrTomMorrow
12-01-2003, 05:53 PM
Disney is such a large force in our world now, having permeated almost every aspect of our culture, that it would be quite difficult. I don't think I could withstand the "Disney withdrawal."

merlinjones
12-01-2003, 05:55 PM
Then you don't really care about Disney's future.

Put aside your fix, your pleasure of the moment for longterm payoff. If you're posting here, you already have enough Disney stuff to last you a lifetime anyway.

There may not be a Disney otherwise. Look at Feature Animation and Imagineering...

ryguy
12-01-2003, 06:18 PM
okay, works for me, if better quality is the out come

cemeinke
12-01-2003, 06:48 PM
I don't think the Baptist boycott ever did anything and I bet there are much fewer internet Disney geeks than Baptisits.

I think I'd rather pick up some shares of Disney Stock that I can then proxy their voting rights to Roy & Stan. Granted my shares won't match those of the big institutional investors but "voter turnout" is usually abysmal in corporate elections so a few properly pledged shares might actually help.

Pirate Girl
12-01-2003, 07:56 PM
It would't nessesarily be an extended period of time. If enough people participated, it would make a big impact on the company, or at least a big point. If they fear loosing $$$ they may choose the cash over the C.E.O. And that would be a great thing!

BTT
12-01-2003, 08:39 PM
Originally posted by merlinjones
Then you don't really care about Disney's future.

Put aside your fix, your pleasure of the moment for longterm payoff. If you're posting here, you already have enough Disney stuff to last you a lifetime anyway.

There may not be a Disney otherwise. Look at Feature Animation and Imagineering...

Don't get snippy with MTM when he brings up a perfectly valid point.

The problem is that the number of people who go on to Disney related sites is a very small percentage of those who engage in any portion of the very long list you posted.

A boycott stands an equally small chance to succeed. I would propose following in Roy's footsteps. If the only way to protest is to publicize it, then start creating "What Would Roy Do?" t-shirts and where it in the parks. Do things that people, who normally wouldn't be aware of such things, would be able to see.

Create business cards that can be placed in the bin along or on PotC DVDs.

All a boycott is likely to do is send them in another direction marketing wise. The one thing they don't want is continued attention on the subject...a boycott is too silent.

Ben T.

sleepyjeff
12-01-2003, 08:52 PM
Well, the ABC part will be easy enough



;)

cryan71
12-01-2003, 09:13 PM
I say let's start a hunger strike!

merlinjones
12-01-2003, 09:20 PM
>>I say let's start a hunger strike!<<

No churros and Monte Cristo sandwiches? ...Nah, it'll never work.
;)

Bluetrust
12-01-2003, 11:27 PM
Originally posted by BTT
A boycott stands an equally small chance to succeed. I would propose following in Roy's footsteps. If the only way to protest is to publicize it, then start creating "What Would Roy Do?" t-shirts and where it in the parks. Do things that people, who normally wouldn't be aware of such things, would be able to see.

Create business cards that can be placed in the bin along or on PotC DVDs.

All a boycott is likely to do is send them in another direction marketing wise. The one thing they don't want is continued attention on the subject...a boycott is too silent.

Ben T.

Well, they already have "Roy was right" clothes and stuff. Damn capitalists!

Anyway, I'll be at Disneyland on New Years Eve wearing something or other proudly proclaiming my support for Roy. (I wonder how the castmembers will react.)

BJW
12-02-2003, 12:03 AM
Originally posted by merlinjones
Posters at laughingplace are suggesting a boycott of Disney products to support Roy and Stanley!

How about it? Can we stop buying any Disney product until Michael agrees to resign?

What do you say???
:confused: :mad: :~D :fez:
Merlin,
Since I run a website that specializes in this I'm curious as to what kind of boycotts you would think would work. If you have any suggestions I can help you to get it going. Just let me know.

merlinjones
12-02-2003, 12:10 AM
Cool!

Well, with the Holidays coming, if we can get people to simply not buy Disney products for gifts this year - - or go their movies (specific titles) or rent/buy their dvds, or go to the parks, I think the hit would show up very quickly in the press, especially the box office and video sales scans.

Also things that hit promotional partners like Happy Meals.

A boycott through all of December holidays until after New Years day - - unless Eisner resigns.

PapiBear
12-02-2003, 12:55 AM
Originally posted by merlinjones
Posters at laughingplace are suggesting a boycott of Disney products to support Roy and Stanley!

How about it? Can we stop buying any Disney product until Michael agrees to resign?

No parks
No Disney Stores
No Kmart
No Happy Meals
No Xmas presents
No Haunted Mansion
No Bad Santa
No Brother Bear
No videos
No video rentals
No music
No cable
No ice shows
No ESPN Zone
No ABC
No books or comics
No toys
No Princess Teas
No hotels or resorts or golf courses
No Pirates of the Caribbean tomorrow
No Lion King or Sleeping Beauty or Finding Nemo

What do you say???
:confused: :mad: :~D :fez:

Merl,

I just saw Haunted Mansion over the weekend and I liked it, and there's no way I'm not getting POTC on DVD this week, but everything else - sure, I can boycott what I'm pretty much already boycotting due to lack of interest. And you already know how much I want the parks to get overhauled.

I'm behind Roy and Stan 100%. These guys have given me renewed faith. They are truly heroes. Eisner and his minions WILL NOT RECOVER from this. Ever.

jrad32
12-02-2003, 09:44 AM
What I don't understand is people who are going to go to the parks wearing Roy is right shirts. The bigger statement is not to go to the parks at all. Eisner doesn't care what your wearing as long as you're spending. Refuse to accept the state of Disneyland as it is now. Don't go to the park.

SacTown Chronic
12-02-2003, 10:30 AM
Originally posted by sleepyjeff
Well, the ABC part will be easy enough



;)


I've been boycotting ABC for years (except for Monday Night Football).

CarGarxCM
12-02-2003, 10:37 AM
I agree... my daughter's birthday is this week and she wants to go to DL as she does every year. I am really torn between whether we should go or not. I can sort of justify going since we will be signed in by a friend. (Using MG pass from my point of view is kind of taking $ out of Eisner's pocket.) Although we'll have to figure out how not to spend anything on merchandise & food. I just wish she wanted to go to Knott's this year!

wendybeth
12-02-2003, 10:43 AM
Jrad-

You're right, but maybe there is another way to look at this....Going and wearing 'Support Roy' clothes will signal the cm's of our support for them, and serve to embarass management:) . They're not going to notice we're not there unless you notify them, and I doubt they'd mind if the AP'ers didn't show; they've already got their money from them. It would be difficult, but I would support an active boycott, only I would notify them EVERY TIME I decided against a Disney purchase. We have tickets to the ice show tomorrow; they are already purchased, but I could decide not to buy the many souvenirs they offer. I've got the POTC DVD, so I'm glad I don't have to decide not to purchase that! We, like so many others, spend a small fortune on Disney; we are planning an April trip, but Iwould be (sob) willing to forego that, only if I do I will be sure to let them know why.

Pirate Girl
12-02-2003, 12:21 PM
Originally posted by PapiBear
There's no way I'm not getting POTC on DVD this week.

It's a GOOD DVD. I have a friend who works at a video store, so I got to see it last week!

Pirate Girl
12-02-2003, 12:24 PM
Originally posted by jrad32
What I don't understand is people who are going to go to the parks wearing Roy is right shirts. The bigger statement is not to go to the parks at all. Eisner doesn't care what your wearing as long as you're spending. Refuse to accept the state of Disneyland as it is now. Don't go to the park.



Go hang around the entrance...heck, lets start a full on protest. ;)

Cadaverous Pallor
12-02-2003, 02:11 PM
I have to admit, I'm very torn about all of this.

I know that by giving the company my money I am supporting the current regime. And you can't say "I support Roy 100%" if you're still giving Eisner money, no matter how vehemently you yell about it.

Yet, I like to think that supporting the products and services that are good representatives of what I think Disney should be is important. I think we need to show support when they actually put money into something (like Pirates). When the company is heading in the right direction, we need to indicate that this is what we want.

The papers are saying that Disney is doing pretty well for the moment due to a good movie year and that may be a detriment to getting Eisner out. Hearing that analysis really bums me out - my cash is in that pot. Of course they're also saying that the current figures may not make any difference, due to the sluggish performance for years plus many failing enterprises.. Notice the word "may" in both sides. Newspapers say everything and nothing.

I know that in the end the real factor is my addiciton to Disneyland, and that trumps all. I keep trying to rationalize this but I can't.

I'll say it again - I know that by giving the company my money I am supporting the current regime. And you can't say "I support Roy 100%" if you're still giving Eisner money, no matter how vehemently you yell about it. :(

ummm....how about an online petition? :|

PapiBear
12-02-2003, 07:29 PM
Originally posted by Cadaverous Pallor
I have to admit, I'm very torn about all of this.

I know that by giving the company my money I am supporting the current regime. And you can't say "I support Roy 100%" if you're still giving Eisner money, no matter how vehemently you yell about it.

Yet, I like to think that supporting the products and services that are good representatives of what I think Disney should be is important. I think we need to show support when they actually put money into something (like Pirates). When the company is heading in the right direction, we need to indicate that this is what we want.

The papers are saying that Disney is doing pretty well for the moment due to a good movie year and that may be a detriment to getting Eisner out. Hearing that analysis really bums me out - my cash is in that pot. Of course they're also saying that the current figures may not make any difference, due to the sluggish performance for years plus many failing enterprises.. Notice the word "may" in both sides. Newspapers say everything and nothing.

I know that in the end the real factor is my addiciton to Disneyland, and that trumps all. I keep trying to rationalize this but I can't.

I'll say it again - I know that by giving the company my money I am supporting the current regime. And you can't say "I support Roy 100%" if you're still giving Eisner money, no matter how vehemently you yell about it. :(

ummm....how about an online petition? :|

I'm not giving Eisner any money. I'm giving Circuit City my money. And besides, it's only $15.99. If I were to buy POTC at a Disney Store, sure, that'd be giving Eisner money. But I'm not. So I can say I support Roy 100% and still buy the POTC DVD and that's all the Disney anything I'll buy all month.

But if you want to nitpick, ok, then I support Roy 99.9999% this week, and 100% the rest of the month.

3IdAlienKid
12-03-2003, 12:06 AM
I don't know about boycotting EVERYTHING Disney (I can't imagine not getting the Walt Disney Treasures DVDs in May). But I have to tell you my wife and I are pretty fed up with Disneyland. So much so that we did not renew our premium passes in March, even though we had just moved about 15 minutes away from DL (whereas we used to drive about 50-60 minutes one way).

Disneyland is the main reason I love Disney, so giving up our passes was more of a process that took some time, maybe a good year or so. But in the end we were so unhappy with things, it just wasn't as much fun to go there anymore, so it didn't make any sense to renew. That's what did it for us.

BJW
12-03-2003, 08:00 AM
Originally posted by merlinjones
Cool!

Well, with the Holidays coming, if we can get people to simply not buy Disney products for gifts this year - - or go their movies (specific titles) or rent/buy their dvds, or go to the parks, I think the hit would show up very quickly in the press, especially the box office and video sales scans.

Also things that hit promotional partners like Happy Meals.

A boycott through all of December holidays until after New Years day - - unless Eisner resigns.
Great idea! I will add this boycott to my site. I encourage others who have websites to add this as well. Maybe if enough of us follow this it will make an impact!

merlinjones
12-03-2003, 08:11 AM
thanks!

let me know when it's up and I'll forward the URL to a bunch of folks!

:cool:


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