Hi,
I'm familiar with Fastpass and Single rider line, but I've also found SAP program in a thread. I can't search on any other reference because it only has three characters.
Thanks in advance :)

SAP = Special Assistance Pass. It allows guests who cannot stand in line to bypass part or all of the queue; it does NOT guarantee less of a wait, as many attractions can handle only a limited number of guests with SAPs.

And it is only for those guests who have special needs.

Please do not abuse this pass if you do not need it and now with so many people abusing it the SAP lines are not really shorter then the normal lines so it dosent even help you that much.

Thanks, I hope not to have use that one for a few years.
Maybe I can drag Grandma back to Disneyland... anything to get her out of Hemet.

If you are someone with limited mobility, or have other special needs that require you to have special assistance while visitng the resort, please stop by City Hall or Guest Services and explain your need. If you do not need assistance, please do not abuse the system.

Originally posted by Morrigoon
And it is only for those guests who have special needs.

And it is INTENDED only for those guests who have special needs.

There are anecdotal reports of groups of able-bodied people asking for SAPs when they don't need them, just to jump lines. If these reports are true, those people should be ashamed of themselves.

What a pity they never are...

--T
:fez:

Yes. Please leave the SAP line short so as not to inconvenience all those healthy teenagers.;)

Maybe I can drag Grandma back to Disneyland... anything to get her out of Hemet.

disneyboy, I just had to laugh at this. My mom lives in Hemet, so I know exactly what you mean.

As a matter of fact, I have AIDS and Diabetes and was hospitalized in July of this year when my liver nearly shut down completely. I get sore feet and sore legs, but I'm still not ready to be "special". I bought my AP so that I could pace myself, but I may eventually need the SAP on one of my extra bad days.:cool:

I hope you can appreciate then, that people on this board tend to be rather defensive about SAPs. In fact, most of the people I see posting about them don't actually use SAP's themselves, but feel strongly that they should not be abused. We want our friends and family members who truly need SAPs to be able to use them, and those who abuse the system defeat the purpose of the system.

Please don't take the comments personally.

Adrienne

disneyboy7.....

Pick up the SAP at City Hall as soon as you get inside the gates on your first day. Tell the CM how long you are visiting the resort and they will put the dates of your entire stay on one pass. You don't need a doctors note to get a pass but it will help your credibility if you have one. Put the pass away in your wallet where you will have it when you need it. You might find that you feel good early on but later in the day you may need it and this way saves you the hassle of going and getting one later in the day when City Hall is busier. Just remember to be honest with yourself and only use the SAP when necessary.

I did this last summer when I was having major lower back pain. I felt pretty good most of the time but after a lot of walking it would sometimes flare up something awful. I am happy to report that I only needed the pass two times in 5 days. Both times were late at night when my back was barking. I was worried that the coasters would mess up my back worse but it never happened. Walking around was harder on my back than the rides - except for that triple hump near the end of CA Screamin. I wore a back brace wrapped tightly most of the time and it held everything in place. Anyway, the point is that you can have one for when you need it and still not abuse the system.

And being too tired, just as the natural consequence of being in one or more Disney theme parks for, say, 18 hours straight, isn't a legitimate reason. (I remember one evening, my first trip to WDW, when I was walking around MK in that condition, almost ready to rent an ECV, but would not have been so crass as to demand an SAP.

On the other hand, if you were to suddenly develop a back problem that was bad enough to give you sciatica (which happened to me in 2001, on a non-Disney vacation), you'd probably be able to get one. But if you were to then try and use it to get "backdoored" into a ride that had a "back trouble" warning sign, well, may God have mercy on your soul.:rolleyes:

Originally posted by adriennek
...[M]ost of the people I see posting about them don't actually use SAP's themselves, but feel strongly that they should not be abused. We want our friends and family members who truly need SAPs to be able to use them...

I, for one, am perfectly happy for people I don't even know to get SAPs, as long as they have need for them.

;)

--T
:fez:
Postscript:
Please don't take the comments personally.
;)

I will try not to take comments personally, from this thread ( or even the meaning of Thanksgiving thread), but I consider the Mousepad to very un-Disneylike at times. Sometimes the most innocent question can ignite a thread resembling a lit match dropped on a dry hillside during a Santa Ana. .... I just saw a Disneyland commercial, the one with Santa and the snowglobe. I feel better now:)

I don't think any SAP comments were directed at you disneyboy7. It's just that any mention of the SAP program gets people's attention because I think we've all seen instances where the system is being abused by perfectly healthy people. I have an acquaintance that came back from DL bragging about taking advantage of the SAP program and never standing in line. I gave him a look like he just said he killed 100 people. He got the message but he's the type of person that would probably do it again the next time he goes.

If you need it, use it.

Originally posted by Andrew
SAP = Special Assistance Pass. It allows guests who cannot stand in line to bypass part or all of the queue; it does NOT guarantee less of a wait, as many attractions can handle only a limited number of guests with SAPs.

I am confused by SAP. Wouldn't SAP mostly be for people who have trouble getting on a ride...like out of a wheel chair, or stepping up to something? It seem like if you can not stand in line you would not need a SAP, just a chair?

By the way does anyone know of a low cost place to rent a scooter? I have a condition which does not allow me to walk or even stand for long periods of time, and my husband is not able to push me in a wheelchair all day. The scooters at WDW get pricy after a few days. ( I do not need a SAP)

Thanks

Just so happens the link is in my copy buffer...
Medical Equipment Rental Companies in Oralndo and Anaheim (http://pixiedustinn.com/disabilitiesfaq/RentalWheelchairsandECVs.html)

I really should update that and clean it up... in my spare time...

Disneyboy7, {{{{{hugs}}}}}} Have a nice time, dear.

Originally posted by cowgirl
I am confused by SAP. Wouldn't SAP mostly be for people who have trouble getting on a ride...like out of a wheel chair, or stepping up to something? It seem like if you can not stand in line you would not need a SAP, just a chair?

By the way does anyone know of a low cost place to rent a scooter? I have a condition which does not allow me to walk or even stand for long periods of time, and my husband is not able to push me in a wheelchair all day. The scooters at WDW get pricy after a few days. ( I do not need a SAP)

Thanks

Depends, on the condition. There are some conditions which make it hard to stand for a long amount of time but if you are moving the condition does not seem quite as bad. As someone with a back condition, my condition varies depending on the day. If I am having muscle spasms, I can barely walk at all and need the chair. However, if I am just having back pain but not the spasms and this does happen with my medical condition varying from day to day, I do not need to use a wheelchair.

I am sorry redhead, I understand now. I hope no one was offended by my post. When I re-read it, it did not sound exactly like it did in my head. :rolleyes: I really hate having to ride those scooters, and how people look at you when you get off them and onto a ride. It makes me want to hang a doctors note around my neck or something. :)

Teri- THANKS for the link!

re: having a wheelchair and and SAP:

There are many people for whom a wheelchair is "enough," but many lines these days are wheelchair accessible and depending on a person's condition, he or she might not be able to wait in a long queue in a wheelchair. For example, some wheelchair accessible lines are outdoors without a lot of shade. Of course, most people that I have met who use wheelchairs are very glad that lines are wheelchair accessible and only use the SAP lines when they really need to.

Adrienne

Originally posted by cowgirl
It seem like if you can not stand in line you would not need a SAP, just a chair?

Just another thought to add: it's possible to not be able to stand in a line for long periods of time, but being in a wheelchair isn't necessarily an option either. As much as people like to go on about how pretty the cobblestones are in Fantasyland, going over those very pretty cobblestones in a wheelchair is very uncomfortable and sometimes painful. There are lots of other places in the park that are very bumpy as well, so being in a wheelchair going over those bumps can actually make the situation worse.

I have even another circumstance where getting a wheelchair instead of an SAP is not a viable option.

As a handful of people on the boards know, I just had a child. In the coming months as I visiit the parks we will be coming with a stroller. It will be difficult to use a wheelchair when we are also having to push the stroller. So in this additional circumstance, an SAP is our viable option.

We certainly hope to enjoy the parks and take the child on appropriate rides (such as those in fantasyland). However, as I go around the parks on the slower than average pace due to the back condition, I will also have to deal with the additional circumstance.