Originally posted by TecTalker2K
fairytalelover, if I were you I would leave now. You have no idea who you are dealing with. Shut up, go get a cold one and relax. If not, be prepared to duck and ready yourself for some nasty moderator e-mail. I have been there.

I don't think it's very nice to tell someone to go away, and it's definitely not nice to tell someone to "shut up".

It's none of my business who has gotten moderator email, but I would presume that the only people getting notes from moderators are those who have done something that violates community policy, not just because someone has posted an opinion that others disagree with. Most of the time, it's not the opinion that's the problem - it's the presentation of the opinion.

Originally posted by TecTalker2K
fairytalelover, if I were you I would leave now. You have no idea who you are dealing with. Shut up, go get a cold one and relax. If not, be prepared to duck and ready yourself for some nasty moderator e-mail. I have been there.

Fairytalelover, don't fall for this one. Posters, such as Tec Talker2 by his own admission, have received moderator e-mails NOT for posting a differing point of view, but for violating MP policies while stating that view. You did no name-calling and your posts are always respectful. Moderators don't discipline for different opinions; nastygrams are sent to those who don't play well with others.

Don't rise to the bait. Don't leave and don't stop posting.

Wanda Woman

Originally posted by Wanda Woman
Fairytalelover, don't fall for this one. Posters, such as Tec Talker2 by his own admission, have received moderator e-mails NOT for posting a differing point of view, but for violating MP policies while stating that view. You did no name-calling and your posts are always respectful. Moderators don't discipline for different opinions; nastygrams are sent to those who don't play well with others.

Don't rise to the bait. Don't leave and don't stop posting.

Wanda Woman

Thank you Wanda Woman. I was quite shocked by that post to me. Even though I have different opinion at times, I try to be as respectful as possible. I realize sometimes it may be difficult in a heated debate. So please let me know if I ever cross the line.:)

Originally posted by AVP
Don't worry - we're only "fascist" when you don't play by the rules. :cool: If you don't break them, you'll never be on the recieving end of "some nasty moderator e-mail."

AVP

LOL!! Well, I will do my utmost to conintue to play by the rules and be respectful. I don't want to actual see the moderators' fascist side!;)

Originally posted by fairytalelover
Thank you Wanda Woman. I was quite shocked by that post to me. Even though I have different opinion at times, I try to be as respectful as possible. I realize sometimes it may be difficult in a heated debate. So please let me know if I ever cross the line.:)

Debates are welcome here--that's the point of MousePad. And even if one gets really close to crossing the line occasionally in the heat of the debate, it's not the end of the world. That's what moderators are here for--to keep things running smoothly, to at times ask people to step back and cool off a bit, but *never* to shut down a good debate.

:)

Trust me.. you don't ;) LOL edited to add.. the trust me .. you don't was in response to the post BEFORE LisaP's :D :fez:

They are all chuckles now but they will turn on you. Unfortunately, you sound like me when I first started. You can do what you want but being an obvious thin king person, I would hate to see the mama tigers bite you. BTW, Lani is real nice.

Mama tigers was not meant in a negative way. It is only a desriptor of the quicknes of the mother protecting its young. I still think Lani is the coolest moderator.

Originally posted by TecTalker2K
They are all chuckles now but they will turn on you. Unfortunately, you sound like me when I first started. You can do what you want but being an obvious thin king person, I would hate to see the mama tigers bite you. BTW, Lani is real nice. TT2K, this is not the place for this discussion. If you want to debate the relative merits of the MousePad moderators, take it to the Admin section. Otherwise, can we get this thread back on topic - whatever the heck it might be by now?

BTW - fairytalelover - here's a good example. Don't break the rules, don't get warned!

AVP

I guess I'm Aunt Tiger, since I don't have any cubs.

Originally posted by AVP
TT2K, this is not the place for this discussion. If you want to debate the relative merits of the MousePad moderators, take it to the Admin section.


I wasn't trying to start a debate, heaven forbid. I was trying to warn someone of potential risks if they continued on the path they were heading. I can think of nothing nobeler than trying to protect another human. Almost makes me feel like a daddy. Hmmm, a parent. yeah, and who says this is off topic. ;)

Grrrrr says daddy tiger.

Ok everybody now let's get back to the issue at hand:
Parents please control your kids or stay at home!
:cool:

Originally posted by dshimel
I was sitting at Hungry Bear, watching the Mark Twain go by, enjoying a nice lunch...............I wanted to toss the mom over the rail into the water, then find where she kept the dad's spline so I could give it back to him.

HI Dishmeil;)


(just being a brat, now that I know you.);)

Fairytalelover:

Do you have anything new and/or constructive to add to this discussion?

Is there anything about children that you don't find rude and/or disgusting?

Adrienne

Originally posted by adriennek
Fairytalelover:

Do you have anything new and/or constructive to add to this discussion?

Is there anything about children that you don't find rude and/or disgusting?

Adrienne

Well, sounds like you're picking a fight;)

Ok, well it's not the children I have a problem with...they are just kids.....it's the parents. The story dshimel wrote at the start of this thread is what my problem is about: parents like that.

Ok. I'm the mother of two girls. My three year old is extremely outgoing, loud and from time to time even obnoxious in public. I hate to admit that she has probably annoyed people from time to time. Sure, she hasn't stolen a fry and run around crazy - but "controlling your children" isn't as easy as it sounds. I can totally see where fairytalelover is coming from, I too am certainly apalled at times by the behavior some parents allow.

However, I would ask for all those out there, especially those without first hand parenting experience, to understand that we are all doing our best. Parenting is a really hard job. Much more so than I bargained for, that's for sure. It's easy to judge, but much more difficult to understand and support.

Originally posted by DivaPrincess
I would ask for all those out there, especially those without first hand parenting experience, to understand that we are all doing our best.

I don't think anyone is disputing that parenting is a tough job and we've all seen parents doing their best to reign in overexcited kids (sometimes to our own amusement).

However, the issue is not with parents who are 'doing their best'. Dshimel's original post concerned a father who was OBVIOUSLY not doing his best to control his child's behavior. (The kid was taking food off other people's plates, for crying out loud!) In fact, the father was doing next to nothing to control his child, who was disturbing everyone else's meal. When a child causes that much disruption, particularly in a dining setting, something must be done by the parental unit. If the child cannot be calmed, the parent should leave the dining area with child in tow. It's not fair to the other diners.

And yes, I am a parent. And yes, I did have to leave a restaurant once because my baby would not stop crying. I had the waitress pack up our food in to-go containers and left her a hefty tip. It wouldn't have been fair to the other diners to have to listen to a wailing baby throughout the meal (hey, I didn't want to listen to a crying baby while I ate, either!).

Wanda Woman

On the other hand of this is discussion, I have been been told that my child was behaving fine when I thought he was misbehaving. I took him out of a restaurant for a discussion about his behavior and when I brought him back in the stranger sitting beside me said that he was being fine. I stated that he was doing things that were inappropriate and that I was going to put a stop to it. I wanted to tell the person to keep quiet but I respected their thoughts and continued to keep my child under control.