Sex And The City: The Movie

[carolinakid]

FT&PD and LIS, I loved your posts! So glad you loved the film! Miss Mouse, TLMTod & mom22 thank you for responding to the "morality police":rolleyes: with such charity and calm! I would have gotten my rear end DELETED!!! Funny how they never invade and "preach" on a thread aimed primarily at a male audience!

jon

A proud SATC fan! I really did NOT want this thread to become a freakin' debate! PS:I really don't mind listening to the opinions of the offended dude (sorry, can't think of his name) but I think he should start his own thread on morality & the movies rather than "invade" one obviously created for discussion/comments about the movie/series itself.

[mom22gls]

I did not watch the show on a very regular basis, because I don't subscribe to HBO, but I understand that Miranda, one of the married characters, is a stressed working mother, who is a caregiver for her chronically ill mother-in-law, and scaled back on her ambitious career as a lawyer to attend to family responsibilities. Charlotte, the other married character, has a husband she adores, who is not exactly a classic sex symbol, being short, bald, and a tad stocky. They adopted a child, and, in the movie, is delighted to be pregnant. What bad examples of American values! Only one of the women was terribly interested in sex, for the sake of having sex. For the most part, the only reason the women had established a significant sexual history, was because they were single for a long time. I remember a comedy sketch, I think it was on SNL, in which a woman who admitted to having an average of one lover a year, since she was 20 or so, was described as a slut, because she was in her 30's and, therefore, the number of her lovers had hit the double digits.

[disneyperson]

I guess, I'll just go sit over there in the corner with Hester and have tea.



This my new favorite quote. :D

I never saw the series and I won't see the film.I've never been a chick flick sort of person.From what I've read and seen, the escapades of these characters simply wouldn't interest me .I also think that the clothes I've seen the character of Carrie wear in ads are for the most part butt-ugly and laughable. ( besides they wear fur and I tend to boycott such things, but that's my personal issue and I won't go into it any further here.)

I can, however,understand why this show is poopular. I'm told it's very well written and for the fashion-inclined it's simply a dream to see. I don't think there's anything immoral about adult women enjoying sex . The film has an R rating so supposedly only adults will be seeing it.(at least until it comes out on DVD)

[tod]

I hope to marry a woman that respects, and thinks more of, herself, and me, enough to "wait". Is that asking too much? How many more will be influenced by such vulgarity, and just cave in?

Aren't you someone to be valued too. I'm sure that your Fiancee thinks so?

Good for you, and I really hope you find somebody like that and everything works for the both of you. I really mean that and deliver it without irony or sarcasm.

That said...

Having these beliefs does not entitle you to dictate to everybody else how they should live their lives.

--t

[norriski]

DK I'm proud of you. It take guts for a man to stand up for what's right morally than it does to bow down to what "society" thinks is acceptable. The world would be a much better place if there were more men, yes MEN like you. That's all I'm going to say about this subject. This is my first and last post in this thread.

[adriennek]

There are things about the show that I wasn't thrilled with. On the other hand, there were a lot of good life lessons about that show. One of the periodicals I subscribe to, which has been run for the past 100 years by an order of priests, has on occasion mentioned a wonderful lesson from the show. (Yeah, mentioned by a priest.)

One thing I've learned in life: It's probably better to have a familiarity with the topic before condemning it. I used to regularly trash talk a certain syndicated radio show host, until I actually listened to her show. Huh. So maybe I DID misjudge her based on misinformation. Doesn't mean I agree with EVERYTHING she says but I learned a lot when I actually listened for the purpose of being able to criticize her more.

That. Said:


I did not watch the show on a very regular basis, because I don't subscribe to HBO, but I understand that Miranda, one of the married characters, is a stressed working mother, who is a caregiver for her chronically ill mother-in-law, and scaled back on her ambitious career as a lawyer to attend to family responsibilities.


Uh-huh. The storyline about her MIL was very good - and I'm told that I missed out on a lot because I watched it on local TV and not the 'full-length' reruns on TBS. I guess the original show is over 35 minutes long so if you don't watch it on the right channels, you only see an edited version.


Charlotte, the other married character, has a husband she adores, who is not exactly a classic sex symbol, being short, bald, and a tad stocky. They adopted a child, and, in the movie, is delighted to be pregnant. What bad examples of American values!

Oh so many lessons about love and acceptance from Charlotte and that whole series about her dog, Elizabeth Taylor.


Only one of the women was terribly interested in sex, for the sake of having sex.

And she was the one who ended up with breast cancer and in a relationship with a younger man who loved her through the breast cancer and her own baldness. Did anyone NOT cry when she had the horrible hot flashes and took off her wig at the charity event?

And this is from me, who isn't even that much a FAN of the show, LOL.

I think that the name does the show a bit of a disservice. Why must we assume that if the word 'Sex' is used that we're talking only about raw lust? There's a lot more to sex than a physical act. There's relationships. And Sex is also a word used to describe gender - it's not just about sex, it's also about gender relationships - men and women in platonic relationships, women in friendships, etc.

I'm very curious to see the movie. I'm worried I'll be disappointed. I get really annoyed when things don't turn out the way I want them to. I might be the only person in America who was annoyed by the ending of Juno. I don't know if I'll see it in a theater but I will see the movie at some point.

Adrienne

[adriennek]

Hey all of you out there that are parents. When you come home after a night at the movies, and your children ask "how was it?", how do you answer after watching a movie like this? "Well sweetie, it was about four sexually loose women, and their endeavors to lower the bar where morals are concerned. I thoroughly enjoyed watching their escapades and at times even wished that my life were more like theirs. I know that I've taught you to be better than that, to respect yourself more than these, but it was just a movie, and besides, they were fabulously dressed."

Perhaps it's time that America reconsider it's morality. :D

ARGH. I hate getting dragged into this...

Anyone who knows me knows where my morality is, LOL.

Just to answer this question:

1- I don't discuss issues with my children that they are too young to comprehend.

2- If I watch a movie like this, my kids won't know it because they won't be watching it with me.

and

3- I teach my children morality by the life I lead. I live my sacrament of marriage to their father everyday, just as I have for almost 14 years now (although our first date was over 20 years ago.) They know their was a baby before any of them that died and that mom and dad own our house and got through that time when dad had no job and we made it through.

They know that dad goes to work every day, that mom takes them to school, that mom and dad help run cub scouts, volunteer at church and for the local police department. In fact, our eldest now does his own volunteering as an alter server at church. They know that when they turned three each of them got an AP to Disneyland, that we pay for our items when we go to the store, and that we treat one another with kindness.

They know about giving food to the poor and making donations to charity. In fact, they help us choose the charities we donate to. (Do you want to give this money to doctors who help sick children or we could give it to this group that does this or this group that does that - that's how we chose our annual Lenten sacrifice to St. Jude's and how my eldest son asked his friends to bring DVDs to give to CHLA to his last birthday party in lieu of gifts for himself.) They know about giving and receiving forgiveness when we do each other wrong, but trying not to go there in the first place.

They know allllll about differences. They know that regardless of a person's skin color, faith, physical and cognitive abilities, they are all worthy of respect. They know how to assemble a wheelchair, hold a door open for others, say please, thank you and excuse me.

They know that I don't dress like a hussy and that our friends don't either, LOL. Yes, they know that Mommy buys really good shoes at Nordstroms!

It's ok, you don't need to worry about my children's morality. I've got that covered.

Adrienne

[mom22gls]

I think I'll add the DVD's to my Netflix list, to catch up with the full versions of the shows. I watched some of the edited versions on TV, but I'd like to see them without commercials.

[ChurroGirl]

As a female, I am not saying that this movie is bad for younger women but as a female, I take offense to the women who may not be fans of the show but who live like the characters. I think that it is degrading to women who act like that and put out a bad rep. for others who arent. I am sure the show is entertaining for some and I am glad thats where you get your kicks. But I stand with DK on this moral issue. I think women should be portrayed differently on TV and movies because lately we just arent cutting it in this industry. I read an article the other day about the next action star, whether it be male or female, they did not list any new up-in-coming actresses to be that for the next generation of kids/movies. To me thats the sad thing. Girls in TV and Movies are objects to look at and deface, I thought we were supposed to be just as strong, not the weak link here.

Thats my .02. Sorry if I offended anyone, it was not to do that. Or to preach either! Well enjoy your movie talk!

[WDW heart]

I think this thread was started to be about the movie, Sex and the City. I don't think it's fair to derail it to become a thread about morality. Shouldn't the same rules apply here?

[The Lovely Mrs. tod]

Uh-huh. The storyline about her MIL was very good - and I'm told that I missed out on a lot because I watched it on local TV and not the 'full-length' reruns on TBS. I guess the original show is over 35 minutes long so if you don't watch it on the right channels, you only see an edited version.
True that. Although they do a pretty good job on the editing. And it's hardly the only show that gets edited. The Two and a Half Men episodes that are currently running in syndication have been edited...for both time AND content. I know that for a fact, I was involved in it.


And she was the one who ended up with breast cancer and in a relationship with a younger man who loved her through the breast cancer and her own baldness. Did anyone NOT cry when she had the horrible hot flashes and took off her wig at the charity event?
AND the women in the audience at that event who got to their feet, took of THEIR wigs and stood with her, grinning AND triumphant. THAT was an awesome episode!

And this is from me, who isn't even that much a FAN of the show, LOL.

I think that the name does the show a bit of a disservice. Why must we assume that if the word 'Sex' is used that we're talking only about raw lust? There's a lot more to sex than a physical act. There's relationships. And Sex is also a word used to describe gender - it's not just about sex, it's also about gender relationships - men and women in platonic relationships, women in friendships, etc.

I'm very curious to see the movie. I'm worried I'll be disappointed. I get really annoyed when things don't turn out the way I want them to. I might be the only person in America who was annoyed by the ending of Juno. I don't know if I'll see it in a theater but I will see the movie at some point.

Adrienne
Good points. :D

[wendyxo]

Saw it last night and loved it!!!
That's all I will say because I don't want to derail this thread further. I am probably seeing it again tomorrow. :D

[carolinakid]

Just read Sex & the City will be #1 at the box office this weekend, knocking Indiana Jones to #2! And that with an audience of almost NO men! Demographics will be out shortly and that should be interesting. Women have been attending in groups.

[mom22gls]

Just read Sex & the City will be #1 at the box office this weekend, knocking Indiana Jones to #2! And that with an audience of almost NO men! Demographics will be out shortly and that should be interesting. Women have been attending in groups.

And, from the buzz I hear around work, and at my fitness club, a lot of the women are over 40 (many well over 40), and either married or widowed. Not exactly a crowd who is going to go out to bars, get tipsy, and pick up men. If I see it in the theatre, it will likely be at the one down the street from me, and it is most likely that, at almost 50, I will be one of the younger people there. It's all fantasy-the ability to eat and drink without limit, and stay fashionably thin, and hardly spend any time actually working, but somehow making enough money to buy designer clothes. Yesterday, I bought summer shoes for my two children (OK, and one pair for myself), and bought at least six pairs, for hundreds less than Carrie would spend on one pair for herself.

[wwithers]

As a female, I am not saying that this movie is bad for younger women but as a female, I take offense to the women who may not be fans of the show but who live like the characters. I think that it is degrading to women who act like that and put out a bad rep. for others who arent. I am sure the show is entertaining for some and I am glad thats where you get your kicks. But I stand with DK on this moral issue. I think women should be portrayed differently on TV and movies because lately we just arent cutting it in this industry. I read an article the other day about the next action star, whether it be male or female, they did not list any new up-in-coming actresses to be that for the next generation of kids/movies. To me thats the sad thing. Girls in TV and Movies are objects to look at and deface, I thought we were supposed to be just as strong, not the weak link here.

Thats my .02. Sorry if I offended anyone, it was not to do that. Or to preach either! Well enjoy your movie talk!

I was never a huge "fan" of the show-- I watched it occasionally and enjoyed it when I did. I may or may not go see the movie in the theater but will probably see it at some point...

Having said that, I think it is pretty clear that you have never seen an episode. The show is not about sex. Sure these adult women have sex, sometimes in the context of relationships, sometimes not. But the show is about finding strength in friendships, learning to depend on yourself and learning to be happy with yourself. The women here are strong and self-sufficient. Look at Charlotte, who's life in many ways was about who her husband was and what he needed (the 1st one, I can't remember her name). She clearly felt that the failure of her marriage was somehow a failure in her. Her friends helped her through it and helped her see that she didn't need a man to be fulfilled. The next man she married was someone who loved her not what she represented.

And for that matter, look at Samantha, the most sexually promiscuous one. Her encounters are NEVER about subjugating herself to a man (or a woman as the case may be); SHE wields the power in her relationships-- she dictates the terms.

If you watched the show, you would know that it is not AT ALL about degrading women for entertainment; it is about strength in oneself (as a woman) and strength in friendship. It may be told in a manner that is only adult appropriate, and morality issues aside, I for one hope to hell that the central lessons are ones I am able to teach my daughter and that she is able to grow up knowing that she has inner strength that requires not a wit of validation by any man.

[disneyperson]

If you watched the show, you would know that it is not AT ALL about degrading women for entertainment; it is about strength in oneself (as a woman) and strength in friendship. It may be told in a manner that is only adult appropriate, and morality issues aside, I for one hope to hell that the central lessons are ones I am able to teach my daughter and that she is able to grow up knowing that she has inner strength that requires not a wit of validation by any man.

Wise words, Whit. (Just don't let her dress like Carrie)

[The Lovely Mrs. tod]

... I think women should be portrayed differently on TV and movies because lately we just arent cutting it in this industry...
I'm curious...what exactly do you mean by "...we just aren't cutting it in this industry"? Do you feel you've been discriminated against in getting parts or getting a script read because you're a woman? In my neck of the woods (television) most of out SVPs and managers are women and a lot of the power in syndicated programming is being wielded by women (think Oprah). Sarah Jessica Parker is a producer of Sex and the City, (a lucrative position if nothing else) and a film with four women leads is about to knock the socks off of Indiana Jones.

IF you want to talk about the historical battle for good women's parts, that's one thing, but I just don't see how applies in this case.

[mom22gls]

I just saw the movie, and, not surprising to me, most of the people there to see it were women, middle-aged and up. There were maybe a dozen women under 30, several apparently with their own mothers. I'm not going to give away any of the plot, but, I actually thought it was refreshing to see a movie that was all about commitment in relationships, both romantic and friendships. There were some great lessons about working to make a marriage work, and a long-term friendship work, and respect for marriage and friendships. That people do make mistakes, and, when a relationship is in trouble, very likely both parties are, to some extent to blame. It might be 80%-20%, or 90%-10%, but both parties have to own their part of the problem, to fix it. There are obvious reasons why the movie was rated R (a few scenes could, and I'm sure will, be edited out, for TV, without ruining the story), but I think it is a very good movie for young women to see. A woman in her 20's may not have had much invested in her relationships, and has just walked away from boyfriends and female friends, when the relationship hits a snag. This movie shows how people need to do the work, to keep a romantic relationship, friendship, or marriage going, something you rarely see in movies.

[ChurroGirl]

Look, first of all I would like to apologize if I insulted anyone or rubbed someone the wrong way, I will be the first to admit that I was wrong about the show. From seeing commercials and such on TV I thought it was about boozing it up and getting laid! I work alot and am never home when the reruns are aired so I never catch it, I didnt not know it was about empowering yourself with your friends. Growing up I never had many female friends do to the fact that they boozed and slutted it up! I was never into that and when I saw the commercials for the show I assumed that it was going to be a similar situation, just on TV.

For the mothers/sisters/daughters/friends who can take the moral or immorality of the show and turn it into a positive thing on younger women, hands down CONGRATS!
Sorry for imposing on your conversation about something that you all enjoy.

[MrsPooh]

I think this thread was started to be about the movie, Sex and the City. I don't think it's fair to derail it to become a thread about morality. Shouldn't the same rules apply here?

I agree wholeheartedly.

I've seen just a few episodes on TV, and enjoyed the show, but I probably won't see it in the theaters because I don't feel like I've seen enough of it to know the whole story. I'm sure I'll see it on DVD one day.

But sheesh, people. This is a thread about seeing and reviewing a movie. Why did it derail so badly into a morality lesson? :rolleyes:

[mom22gls]

I agree wholeheartedly.

I've seen just a few episodes on TV, and enjoyed the show, but I probably won't see it in the theaters because I don't feel like I've seen enough of it to know the whole story. I'm sure I'll see it on DVD one day.

But sheesh, people. This is a thread about seeing and reviewing a movie. Why did it derail so badly into a morality lesson? :rolleyes:

I was not completely up on the series, but, for the movie, it did not matter that much. They do a quick backstory on each character, during the credits, and that was sufficient to follow the plot. Also, the characters provide some of the history, in conversation. Even if you had never seen the show, you could follow the movie.

[MrsPooh]

I was not completely up on the series, but, for the movie, it did not matter that much. They do a quick backstory on each character, during the credits, and that was sufficient to follow the plot. Also, the characters provide some of the history, in conversation. Even if you had never seen the show, you could follow the movie.

That's good to know, mom22gls. Thanks! ;)

[disneyperson]

Look, first of all I would like to apologize if I insulted anyone or rubbed someone the wrong way, I will be the first to admit that I was wrong about the show. From seeing commercials and such on TV I thought it was about boozing it up and getting laid! I work alot and am never home when the reruns are aired so I never catch it, I didnt not know it was about empowering yourself with your friends. Growing up I never had many female friends do to the fact that they boozed and slutted it up! I was never into that and when I saw the commercials for the show I assumed that it was going to be a similar situation, just on TV.

For the mothers/sisters/daughters/friends who can take the moral or immorality of the show and turn it into a positive thing on younger women, hands down CONGRATS!
Sorry for imposing on your conversation about something that you all enjoy.

Very classy post, frankietwo.

[tinker3]

I really enjoyed the movie! I have only seen the episodes shown on TBS. I think the movie would be very easy to follow for anyone who hasn't seen the episodes.

If there is anyone concerned about morality issue, I know it's been discussed a bit but it is mostly about 4 successful women who have a very strong friendship. Yes there is a couple of sex scenes. I didn't feel like it's any more than many "R" movies. Without giving too much away there is a pretty big dose of "Love and Marriage" in this movie, with lots of fashion (most I don't understand :rolleyes:) and humor. Lots of tears and laughter :).

[mom22gls]

I saw an interview with SJP yesterday, and she proclaimed that she has "never done a nude scene, and never will." In this movie, the one bedroom scene has her fully clothed, and the characters are not having sex, but are talking. In another somewhat intimate scene, they are both clothed, and not shown having sex. Most of the nude scenes do not involve any of the main characters. The most explicit nude scenes, involving a main character, are relevant to the plot. One is rather silly, and certain parts of the body are covered up.