liketorent
05-02-2008, 06:27 PM
Hi All, I am interested in staying at a Disneyworld Villa Resort ( they all look very nice ) but I live to far away from Disneyworld to make buying points worthwhile. I am seriously considering renting points buy am somewhat concerned about who to rent from. I came accross a site of David's Disney Vacation Club Rentals and it looks very good. The point may cost a little more to rent ( $13.00 ) but that's ok if the site is reputable.
Have any of you had any experience or know of David's Disney Vacation Club Rental. Any other suggestions on reputable renters.
Also, have can anyone advise on Animal Kingdom Villas Concierge.
Thanks in advance.
Sue Holland
05-04-2008, 04:03 PM
Speaking as a dvc member, I would avoid that site like the plague. It sounds like someone has set up a business renting dvc points, which is prohibitted. You have no more safety/security using him vs using any random dvc owner, yet you're paying extra so the owner can get their money and David can make money "handling" the transaction. I'm assuming he has members transfer points to him so he can make the reservation. What you wouldn't know is Disney is looking for a pattern of reservations being made in other people's names, and they've said they'd cancel those reservations if it looks like the person is renting points in a commercial manner (which he obviously is). If Disney catches your reservation and cancels it, do you trust David to refund your money?? I wouldn't....but that's just my opinion.
GusMan
05-04-2008, 07:00 PM
Sue, you took the words out of my mouth.
Renting points from other members already has inherent risks for both parties involved. And being that DVC is starting to look for patterns that violate the terms of use, you would be better off going through another member directly. (Besides, you will save some coin in the process.)
Duane
05-13-2008, 11:52 AM
If you're going to rent points from a DVC member, I suggest you click here http://www.disboards.com/forumdisplay.php?f=29 to see current offers and contact the DVC member directly.
DVC Mike
05-13-2008, 03:41 PM
If you're going to rent points from a DVC member, I suggest you click here http://www.disboards.com/forumdisplay.php?f=29 to see current offers and contact the DVC member directly.
Or use MouseOwners.com:
http://www.mouseowners.com/forums/
scbaks
08-01-2008, 06:01 PM
Is there a legitimate way to purchase unused points from DVC members for vacations? I found a website www.dvcrequest.com that sells points for $13 per point. Thanks for any guidance.
DVC Mike
08-01-2008, 07:14 PM
While commonly referred to as “renting points”, you are actually paying a DVC member to make a reservation in your name with some of the points they own as DVC members.
Keep in mind that this is a private transaction between two people, and Disney is not involved in any way. If anything goes wrong, you can’t complain to Disney or expect them to resolve any problem. Until you physically check-in, the DVC owner controls the reservation, even when it is in your name.
We don't often see problematic DVC rentals, and when we do they are usually due to misunderstandings between the DVC owner and the renter. Unfortunately, a lot of those misunderstandings come from lack of knowledge about how DVC works and how that differs from a traditional hotel reservation -- or a DVC reservation made through Disney CRO, for that matter.
You would think that the DVC owners all have perfect understanding of their accounts, and it's the people renting reservations who don't get it. You'd be dead wrong. Too often, neither party really understands the situation well enough to be able to anticipate problem areas. That’s why it’s important to rent points from a DVC member who has done it before. Take some time yourself to get educated on how DVC works before looking to “rent points”.
Please use due diligence before entering into any agreement and certainly before sending any payment. Renting points requires trust on both sides of the agreement, but even with trust there is a need for you to do some due diligence and common sense checking before sending off your money to a total stranger.
Ask for references from the DVC member who is renting the points, and check their references. Good references show that a DVC member has had successful rentals in the past, and is knowledgeable about the DVC program. You are more likely to have a miscommunication with a DVC member who is renting their points for the first time.
Don't rent from any supposed “member” who has only made a few posts on a rental board (DisBoards, MouseOwners.com, etc.). It could be an indicator of a scam. Review past posts for the person you are working with so you can get an idea what type of person they may be.
Get the owner's full name, home address and home phone number before sending any payment. To the extent possible, confirm that the information is valid.
Confirm that the person is, in fact, a DVC owner by running a search at the Orange County Comptroller's Office web site (this site only reports owners of WDW DVC resorts).
There should be a written contract or letter of agreement, signed by both of you, spelling out exactly what the rental will cost, when payment is due, dates of the stay, etc.
Never pay a total stranger by using a "cash equivalent" such as Western Union or money order.
If something sounds "off," don't proceed. It's not worth taking the risk. Any DVC deal that seems too good to be true most likely is.
Also, please keep in mind the following important points:
Be aware that the Disney Vacation Club will not speak with renters or give them any information. They won't take a room request from you; they won't confirm you have a reservation; and they won't make Magical Express arrangements for you. Only DVC owners can speak with DVC about reservations. Any changes and any additions like the Dining Plan or Magical Express will have to be made through Member Services by the owner. You will pay for the Disney Dining Plan during check-in at the resort. You can make your own dining reservations through the Disney dining number. Park tickets cannot be purchased through the DVC member. You can purchase your tickets on your own.
DVC is a timeshare and not a hotel. A DVC reservation is very different from a regular hotel reservation and the limitations / restrictions / penalties on the owner may make cancellation and rescheduling difficult or impossible. Those problems vary from owner to owner, from rental to rental, and you have no way of knowing what kind of restrictions the owner is under. If you get in a position where you have to cancel a rented reservation, the owner may not be able to help you. Many owners have a “no cancellation/no changes/no refunds” policy. Be sure you fully understand what will happen if your plans change. That is critical, and if you are not comfortable with the answer, a DVC rental is probably not for you. DVC rentals do not work well for people whose plans are not firmly set. You'll have much better cancellation policies when booking through Disney’s CRO than renting points.
You will probably need a much larger deposit and have to pay in full much earlier when renting points than with using Disney CRO. You may need to pay with a cashiers check instead of being able to use your credit card.
You do not get daily maid service when you rent from a DVC member (while you do get daily maid service if you make the reservation through Disney CRO). You get your trash emptied and new towels on day 4 of a vacation, and if you stay 8 or more nights, on day 4 you get a full cleaning, and day 8 would be the trash & towel service.
While you will receive all the standard perks of staying onsite (Magical Express, Extra Magic Hours, etc.), please be aware than renters typically do not get to take advantage of DVC member perks such as discounts, free valet parking, etc.
The DVC system is complex and takes some time to understand, and many rental difficulties or misunderstandings are from good people with good intentions, who misunderstand the subtleties of the system.
GusMan
08-03-2008, 01:26 PM
scbaks,
I merged your thread with a thread with a similar question. Please see above for additional comments from others.
Thanks.
scbaks
08-04-2008, 04:53 PM
Thanks for all the info. Based on these replies, I won't be going this route. Not worth the risk and aggravation. I used Disney reservations to book the AKL for visit first week of December!